Garrett Wang Recalls Tensions on ‘Voyager’ Set, Tried to “Broker Peace”

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Last fall, we covered a remarkable conversation with Star Trek: Voyager actress Jeri Ryan, where the former Borg went into detail about some of her difficulties transitioning into the show’s cast, especially with Voyager captain Kate Mulgrew.

At the DragonCon convention this past September, Ryan was asked about the situation again, and her co-star Garrett Wang provided his emotional perspective on events from this rocky time aboard Voyager — and how he tried to ‘broker peace’ between the two actresses in recent years.

Original video by YouTube user Razendra Bahadur.

  • CC

    awesome..great job Garrett

  • Brian C. Bock

    It’s too bad that Kate Mulgrew hasn’t been a strong enough person to attempt to make amends. I wish I’d never heard of her nastiness toward Ryan. I like Ryan and have followed her performance on many shows. The one thing she did that I do think makes her not quite as sympathetic was dating one of her bosses. In most workplaces, this would be a huge lawsuit, lots of office gossip and a huge source of hurt feelings. Ryan even said that things got better once she was sleeping with the boss. That’s just sleazy. I’m sorry, but it is unprofessional as hell. Obviously, I wasn’t there and ultimately, my opinion makes no difference. But I think it’s important not to castigate Kate Mulgrew because she doesn’t want to air this publicly.

    • prometheus59650

      Lots of inter-office dating takes place that ends just fine because the people involved are grown-ups and “over” can mean over. As to how it got “better,” for Ryan, I don’t know what that means. Did she get better stories as the series went on? Yes. But after having watched that show for seven years I can make the easily defensible argument that she got better material because she’s one of the better actors on the series.

      There’s a reason it became the Seven/Doctor show.

      And who Ryan slept with isn’t relevant in the slightest to Mulgrew’s nasty behavior because that wasn’t why she was doing it. She was upset that Lien was cut and Ryan bought in (something Ryan had nothing to do with.

      It’s important not to castigate her for not wanting to air it publicly, she doesn’t have to. Ryan doesn’t. It’s been other people that have leaked the stories in recent years, not her. But I do think she deserves to be castigated for, in no point in the last 20 years, apologizing, even privately, for her disrespectful behavior towards Ryan.

      • Joseph Manno

        “There’s a reason it became the Seven/Doctor show.”

        If you’re implying it’s because the others weren’t competent, that’s beyond ridiculous.

        • ivan1138

          No he is implying that Robert Picardo AND jeri Ryan were sleeping with Brannon Braga!

          • SpaceCadet

            Hahahaha!

        • Smithian

          Not competent? I would never think that, but not compelling is another thing. Seven and the Doctor were far and away the most dynamic characters, Janeway was a strong presence but written so inconsistently it was sometimes by sheer force of will on the part of Mulgrew that she hung together at all.

      • Brian C. Bock

        No SHE said that her experience got better after she started to sleep with the boss. Ryan said this. If you sleep with the boss, it’s not just what the boss does with you that is the problem. It’s the perception that “Hey, this person sleeps with the boss, I’d better do what she wants.” It doesn’t matter what she actually did. Sleeping with the boss is sleazy. Sleeping with a coworker is common. But people should NEVER sleep with the boss. In the real (read not Hollywood) world, it’s a path to lawsuits.

        • kadajawi

          That doesn’t matter though, as Mulgrew’s vicious attacks happened BEFORE that happened. If she had been pissed off because she sleeps with the boss, fine. But she was pissed off because of something that was completely out of the hands of Ryan. Of course Ryan could have said no, but then they’d have found another actor. That was very unprofessional behaviour of her.

        • Dusty Ayres

          But you know who else did that? Majel Barrett (was sleeping with Gene Roddenberry, which is how she became Chapel.)

      • Virtus

        Just watching Voyager and just finished episode that was last episode of Lien and she and Mulgrew are basically crying in that last scene.

        Take a look at that scene from episode “The Gift” when Lien says “It was my decision” – you can see her lips show that she’s trying hard not to cry, and Mulgrew saw this, and we all did. It was pretty sad. I wouldn’t want for Seven to not be in Voyager, but wasn’t there room for both of them? Here’s the episode just for you 🙂 http://www.vid.gg/video/fc59ba0541bb9 37:40

        • SpaceCadet

          There were already 9 main cast members which is a lot for a tv series. 10 really would have been overkill and I believe the writers had stated they were having difficulty coming up with stories for Kes. Therefore, it made sense to push her out to bring on Seven.

          • Muzer

            I heard they were going to kick out Garrett Wang (which would have made sense given they did literally fuck all with the character), but then he was named ‘n’th sexiest man by some magazine, so they kept him…

          • Virtus

            Yeah I heard that too.

          • Smithian

            Such a shame. Keeping Lien but dumping Wang would have created an equally balanced gender composition in the cast.

          • Dusty Ayres

            Damn right, and it would have also created the first lesbian pairing on a Star Trek show. Kes & Seven, finding out what each other is, and having sex.

          • Virtus

            That makes sense. And damn I forgot how Seven was hot, even in those first few episodes. I may have to re-watch them all 😀

    • drewspinoso

      Mulgrew is above that………………and everyone else. She’s ingenious and only cares about herself and prolonging her son’s career……and promoting her next book…….or any acting award………or her next job she’s trying to make us swallow.

      • Maddy

        That’s a petty claim. Yes, Mulgrew has and continues to have great success in her life, but that certainly doesn’t make her pretentious. Honestly, it amazes me how success can be so easily coloured by sexism. William Shatner wrote and promoted his own written works as well, does that make him pretentious or “above” others? So Mulgrew is out there promoting herself, what’s so wrong with that? In a world (Hollywood, Star Trek, society in general) dominated by men, I think women sometimes need to have the courage to promote themselves.

        • Smithian

          William Shatner is incredibly pretentious. Any other example but him! 😉

    • Moeskido

      Simply put, it’s too bad that there are so many people who feel righteous enough to judge a situation they weren’t present to witness first-hand. But that’s what the Web enables everyone to do, from the safety of their parents’ basements.

    • Smithian

      I think they’ve patched it up a bit since this article. At least been to the same conventions…

    • cinna

      you can’t help who you fall in love with. Patrick steward fell for his boss and they got married. so no i dont think its sleazy unless it was obvious that the person was sleeping with many producers in order to make it in the business. but dating one person who you feel for i wouldn’t call that sleazy.

      • Smithian

        Jeri Ryan’s was the character everyone had a hand in and wanted to write for well-before she started dating Braga. Seven was as much Jeri Taylor’s as she was Braga’s in the beginning.

  • Andrew Buttner

    Such a shame to see the emotional damage left by cast members caught up in such a tense and difficult relationship. I remember watching the series and questioning the off-screen relationship between Mulgrew and Ryan, because it seemed there was tension in the scenes, and unsure if that was good acting or something deeper. Reminiscent of the tension seen between Doohan and Shatner, especially in their last movie together.

  • Jeff L. Crowder

    Gotta love Harry Kim!!!

    • Smithian

      I think it’s okay to love Garrett Wang as a person. Harry Kim? Not so much.

      • cinna

        whats wrong with liking harry too lol. i have heard other folks say they didnt like harry kim’s character. i thought he was cute and sweet. my fav episode was timeless. although i was begingin to wonder if after 7 yrs harry would ever be promoted form being an esnign lol

        • Smithian

          Such a waste of space IMO. Garrett Wang is a sweet guy, but rarely demonstrated a lot of range as an actor. “Timeless” and “The Chute” might be his best outings, but he never convinced as a love interest, a defiant rebel, a happy go-lucky type, a stiff by-the-book officer, a realistic second half of the Paris/Kim duo. Never bought any of it for most of his 7 years in the part.
          The character was a disaster – no traits to develop besides being a green by the book ensign who eventually… becomes less green. He got to be unlucky in love many times, spout some of the worst dialogue on the bridge, and never really rose above his material.
          This is opposed to say, Tim Russ, who was so underutilized but knocked his scenes and solo episodes out of the park despite the limitations of his character. I don’t think Garrett Wang ever broke out and I certainly wished it had been him and not Kes who left in season 4.

  • Melody

    I’m not going to excuse all of Kate Mulgrew’s behavior but I can’t help but feel I would have been the same way in her shoes. Janeway was supposed to be the ultimate feminist role model but
    her character sucked much of the time due to the terrible writing on that show. Think about how much other Trek shows are about the captains.
    When ratings suffered, they brought in a hot young supermodel who quickly took center stage. If I were
    Mulgrew that would have hurt my pride a LOT. And then, she started dating producer Brannon Braga, part of the reason for
    the aforementioned terrible writing.
    Seven
    of Nine was a cool character, but that line in Galaxy Quest, “My TV
    Guide interview was six paragraphs about my boobs and how they fit into
    my suit” is referencing an actual TV Guide article about Seven. The promotion of Jeri Ryan’s sex appeal was ridiculous and it cost the rest of the cast.
    Also Garrett Wang is an incredibly nice person.

    • kadajawi

      But isn’t it said that since Jeri started dating Braga the attacks from Mulgrew stopped?
      The writing for Janeway was bad. But if anything Mulgrew should have tried to fix that. When Nimoy was given a script where he thought he was acting out of character he intervened.

    • Smithian

      I would have been frustrated that the writers, particularly Braga, found such a knack for coming up with good stories and good dialogue for Seven immediately in season 4, whereas they’d struggled for years to define Janeway consistently.

      • cinna

        i think janeways character defined who she was early on. some just didn’t particularly like janeway over the other captains. that wasn’t kates fault but that was who janeway was. she followed the prime directive to the maxx. someone asked if i needed help and it was life an death and doing whats right went against protocol/rules. which captain would i call to save me. i said the last would be janeway. becuase janeway was more about following the rules than any other captain even if it meant saving someone. i mean all captain tried to follow the prime directive but even captain picard would search for ways around it if it mean saving a soldier. janeway would leave you stranded a million years form home simply because she didn’t want to use alien technology lol

        • Smithian

          I don’t think Janeway was so by the book – that definition was considered irrelevant if the writers decided it should be to move things along. Janeway was wildly inconsistent. She violated the Prime Directive a lot, took reckless risks to make shortcuts, went on a vendetta more than once, risked the whole crew for one person many more times than Picard ever would have, and still acted self-righteous all the way through without anyone pointing out all the times she was in the wrong. You can’t reconcile the Janeway in “Caretaker” with the ones in “Basics,” “Night” and “Equinox Part 2” for example – she’s all over the place in a way that goes beyond simply being adaptable. The writers just didn’t quite have a handle on her week to week.

          • David Boccabella

            But that is the writers.. Not Kate..

          • Smithian

            Yes. The only thing I fault her for is taking her irritation out on Ryan on set.

  • Rana Rahman

    They should make a soap opera about the personal lives of the Trek crew spanning the decades lol

  • SpaceCadet

    It’s too bad about the disharmony on the show. Seems petty. But 7 of 9 was a good addition story-wise although to the detriment of the majority of the rest of the cast. Aside from DS9, the human characters on Trek are often the least compelling and interesting with the exception of the captains because they have such strong personalities. Janeway and Seven and the Doctor are what made Voyager entertaining for me. It helped immensely that they were all strong actors too.

    • Bradamant

      Aye, in the end, those were the three strongest actors, imo.

      A few were good to very good at times.

      A couple were just horrrrrrrribly bad.

  • Britton Noah Bennett

    I’ve seen Kate Mulgrew talk about this… her rationale, at the time, was that Star Trek could have a lead character (herself) that was powerful and respected without resorting to the TV tactic of beautiful woman in a skin tight suit. To her, having Jeri come into the show was a slap in the face and meant that the show wasn’t cutting it without throwing sex into it.

    I’m torn. Kate had a valid point about where we are as a society… but the writing and acting didn’t really take off until Seven came in and Kes went out.

    • kadajawi

      She has a point, but if anything she should have taken that up with the writers, showrunners, producers, … it’s not exactly Jeri Ryan’s fault that she is attractive!
      Also the Seven story lines were the better ones of the show. It helped the show. Did Seven really need to wear that costume? No. And, quite frankly, I didn’t think it was particularly sexy in the first place.

    • Chris B

      When I watched Voyager, it always came down to two very simple descriptions I’d share with my friends: “Katherine Hepburn in Space”, or “Janeway pulls a Kruschev… again…” DS9 was a similar way. That was “Shaft in Space”. What made TNG work over DS9 and Voyager was, once they got over rehashing old TOS episodes and having Wesley save the ship every week, they scaled back the development of the characters to a point where they weren’t such upstanding Federation examples. Data’s social ease and interactions were scaled back by Season 2, as was Worf’s comfort living in a human-dominated society, and even Riker’s unease about a fast track career added to the character development.

      More importantly, you had to have that tension to make life in the setting believable. That imperfection of humanity trying to maneuver a system they built to solve the galaxy’s problems, and realizing they didn’t have all the answers was far easier to suspend disbelief than all of the Season 1 commentary that humanity had evolved and weeded out all the eccentrics who didn’t have the chops to become the non-profit Boy Scouts of space.

      With Voyager, the Star Trek production team were effectively trying to sell us “Earth 2”, or “Space Rangers” without Clancy Brown or Linda Hunt. The characters’ flaws and talents weren’t just present, they were exaggerated to the level of B-movie proportions. It got worse as they started accepting fanfiction as adapted scripts. The fact UPN was trying to market itself as hip and cool didn’t help matters, either, which likely added pressure to bring Ryan aboard.

      Fixing the show would be as simple as taking advantage of the tension built between the characters, especially Janeway and the rest of the crew. Face it, Janeway became just another Captain Bligh, demanding diplomacy at the barrel of a phaser anytime she couldn’t manipulate or bully the local star system into following Federation policy. Picard was never so single-minded, and suffered the slings and arrows (quite literally in “Who Watches the Watchers?”) because he had to weigh the options. What if Janeway had a mutiny, a hardcore, some Starfleet pukes out the airlock style mutiny? Chakotay would have to broker a peace, the characters on Janeway’s b****list (Torres, the Doctor, Seven, Paris, etc) would have a chance to shape up, and Janeway’s favorites (Neelix, Tuvok, Chakotay, Kim) would have to watch themselves in the new power play.

      The show could have changed from Voyager mimicking Dances with Wolves to what BSG was for two seasons until Adama and Roslin came to a truce. You’d see Harry Kim get hard fast, Paris have to grow up and deal with reality, Tuvok would become Voyager’s Garak, and every lower deck crewman or ensign would have a sharp learning curve to work alongside the A-team senior staff. If they brought Seven aboard, she’d be yet another compromise, and not Janeway’s latest pet project to mold every Delta Quadrant inhabitant into a Federation citizen.

      For Mulgrew’s defense, I agree with her the show needed a strong female role that wasn’t based on bra size. However, even in the darkest two-parters like “Year of Hell”, everyone still plays their exaggerated roles instead of growing or struggling against decisions.

      • Smithian

        Just a note about DS9: if TNG is elevated because it let the characters be more human or alien and have a range of different qualms and struggles beyond typical Star Trek moral dilemmas, I can’t see how that’s what makes it better than DS9 since DS9 ran with the human flaws and alien natures and inter-character conflicts more than any other Trek series.
        Also, Shaft in Space?!

        • Eli

          Peeps usually like to watch their own kind of people, Talk about the irony ehh ,alien you say lol. Black captain and a female captain, what!!! My personal favourite was ds9 as it was more centred about our everyday lives and the conflicts we face each day, and it also had in my opinion the best overall actors and humour 👍, even though I wished they would’ve and should’ve explored the gamma quadrant more!

        • mytruepower2

          DS9 and TNG were both great shows; just in different ways. What makes some people (myself included, honestly,) like TNG more is three big factors.

          1. There was less sci-fi exploration on DS9; at least in the later seasons that everyone remembers. Earlier episodes had things like alien imaginary beings and Dax being tried for the crimes of her former-life-self, but as time went on, the bizarre and unexpected ceased to be the point, and the final few seasons were mainly about the politics of the Alpha Quadrant, which, while interesting in a sense, isn’t the same kind of sci-fi escapism that ST vets had come to expect. In short, DS9 didn’t give itself as much permission to be weird as TNG did.

          2. Speaking of escapism, DS9 wasn’t nearly as much of that. Much of the charm of TNG (and if we’re being honest, of the original series as well,) was that we were escaping to a world that has progressed, learning to solve their problems through study and hard work instead of violence. There are, of course, times when phasers need to be used, but again, phasers are tools as much as weapons. They either stun someone or vaporize things. You don’t end up with a bunch of wounded in a phaser fight. It just doesn’t work like that. DS9 shifted focus to a complete reversal of what made Star Trek such great escapism in the past, appealing to a completely different audience; people looking for excitement, rather than escapism in a more peaceful sense.

          3. This was a problem with Voyager as well, and with the original series, but a lot of characters ended up being neglected, and you never really find out much about them past a certain point. Major connections to their families and past experiences don’t get brought up as much as in TNG. Dax, O’Brien, Quark and even Sisko all seemed to kind of plateau in the explanation of their characters, beyond which nothing new about their lives was learned. A lot of the development of Dax in Season 5 had more to do with her relationship with Worf than who she was as a person. There were exceptions to this, of course. Odo and Major Kira both revealed a lot about themselves, even later in the series, and even Bashir gets new development (though it takes a bit of a strange turn, and doesn’t really address who he is as a person.) Still, there’s a marked difference. By contrast, look at how much we know about Commander Riker by the end of the first season alone. His past relationship with Troi, his love of Jazz, his refusal to risk the life of the ship’s captain and a few things about his time in Starfleet Academy were established early on, and the series didn’t let up on this, introducing his tense relationship with his father and with a former captain later on, and many other things. Data, Picard, Worf, etc… all gave the real impression that they had had lives before joining Starfleet, but this element wasn’t as strong on DS9.

          Those are my main reasons for preferring TNG overall, though I still think that, barring one or two bad episodes, it was a darn fine show too.

          • Smithian

            You could just sum it up as, “TNG was more fun.” Which is perfectly valid, I just don’t think it was nearly as deep as DS9.
            DS9 allowed itself to get pretty damned weird. It doesn’t matter that there were political storyarcs running underneath the proceedings – the trappings are very overt. Every alien on DS9 is VERY alien. Kira is fleshed out alongside a very colorful Bajoran culture – their religion, festivals, birthing rituals, mythology, superstitions… it’s intricate and elaborate. Quark, Rom, Nog, the Nagus, Ishka and Brunt are some of the most out there aliens ever portrayed on Star Trek. They run the gamut of degrees of “Ferengi-ness” and clash as a result, but they all present a very alien perspective on events and on human behavior. Odo as well – already complex and indifferent to typical human behavior, he mellows out while at the same time getting drawn to his people who it’s an understatement to say are highly unusual villains. Worf acts more Klingon on DS9 than he usually did on TNG – Picard even once commented how human Worf acted at one point. Cardassian characters and culture were refined in everything from broad strokes down to a discussion between Garak and Bashir about how the repetitive epic is the most elegant form of Cardassian literature. TNG was episodic to a fault, Voyager even more so, bizarrely. Voyager featured more new aliens than TNG and DS9 combined, yet barely any made much of an impression. TNG had the benefit of being fresher, had a lively cast with fantastic chemistry and certainly did indulge in pure exploration stories which became a rarity on DS9. DS9’s frivolity did come out in sillier ways than TNG ever managed though, to mixed results. Trials and Tribble-ations, The Magnificent Ferengi, One Little Ship, Fascination, Profit and Lace, In the Cards, You Are Cordially Invited, Hs Way, Badda Bing Badda Bang… For being a serious show, it embraced comedy overtly in a way we rarely saw again after TOS.
            In terms of escapism though, darker sci-fi on TV in the 1990s was as alien as the bright optimism of TOS and TNG. War, religion and politics might be more conventional topics for drama, but in that setting it’s its own unique palette of escapist storytelling. Not everyone’s tastes, surely. But IMO it ages better.
            As for the character back stories and development being stronger on TNG, I think that’s quite debatable. Riker is a fun character, but the development you mentioned is largely confined to the first 3 seasons. After The Best of Both Worlds, it’s not until Second Chances and The Pegasus where the writers remember he has a past that probably deserves to be mined for character development. For all the amazing work put into Picard, Data and Worf, it’s Geordi, Troi and Crusher who are all much in the same boat as Riker, but with even less upfront development. It’s telling that Troi’s late game developments include a contrived relationship with Worf, while Geordi and Crusher both fell victim to season 7’s mad rush to introduce and expand practically every character’s extended family before it’s too late.
            DS9 gave Sisko a complicated backstory in Emissary which Dax, Jake and Joseph Sisko served to shed more light on as time went on, and an episode like Far Beyond the Stars or In the Pale Moonlight tells me more about the man and his demons than the slightly hokey predestination story season 7 concocted for him. I’ll admit he was front-loaded, and his character improvements have more to do with Avery Brooks finding his groove than the character and his past being truly fleshed out. But his character is about self-discovery and coming to understand his purpose, so it’s a very different narrative utility in the long run from what Picard was used for. Quark’s family was omnipresent on DS9 – his complicated relationship with Ishka and Rom was always illuminating, and it wasn’t always predictable whether he would take the “human” way out of a moral dilemma. That his story ends with him taking a firm stand in opposition to liberal reforms is refreshing. I would agree Dax didn’t get developed to her full potential, which made Jadzia’s death an irritating development since it meant Ezri landed more standalone stories and her own family reunion story which you know Jadzia never would have gotten in that last season. It would be remiss not to mention the huge ancillary character roster on DS9 though. While TNG really only had Q, Guinan, Barclay and Lwaxana Troi showing up regularly, DS9 added more and more depth to Garak, Rom, Nog, Weyoun, Dukat, Damar, Martok, Eddington, Winn… that’s damned impressive.
            TNG is breezy fun consistently, Voyager excelled at stunt episodes. DS9 is the broody moody middle child, so it’s not to everyone’s tastes, but I would stand up for its fundamentals any day!

          • mytruepower2

            I never sum things up, and I think this reply of yours is very well-put. As I said, the two shows are just different, but they’re both good.
            However, aside from some of the character points you made (where my only argument would be with the way Worf’s character shapeshifted in the transition between shows,) I think most of this is inherent to the concept of a sci-fi show about exploring and discovering new things. The idea of “being episodic” gives the writers the chance to introduce *new* elements on a regular basis, instead of being forced to further develop the ones they have. This is engaging to viewers who are legitimately interested in the cool, new sci-fi “stuff” that the crew is going to find next time. It’s also possible, for a different kind of viewer, to be legitimately interested in the development of characters and their relationships to each other, but there we cross the line from Sci-Fi to Space Opera, and not everyone is able to appreciate both to the same degree.

          • David Boccabella

            TNG was NEW!!!.. Lets face it. After such long absence apart from the movies Star Trek was going to be shown on a Weekly Basis!!.

            Essentially for us die-hard fans – anything would work. After that with the other series we became more critical and the writers were struggling for new storyline and concepts that have not been done before.

    • cinna

      i wasn’t a huge fan of seven of nine BUT i don’t feel it was right for Kate to take her feelings out on Jeri simply because she didn’t agree with the direction the writers were doing. Jeri was there to do a job and it seems like she did it professionally in-spite of the way she was treated. the show was about a strong woman (captain janeway) and she did get all the attention. seven came in on the 4th season and that did not in anyway take away from janeways character. sounds like Kate enjoyed the attention then when seven came, many eyes went to her and this made Kate angry. nt really understanding hwy you are torn other than not wanting to be against Kate. yes im sure the future will have sexy women wearing tight clothes, and that should hopefully have no bearing on whether they can do their jobs or not.

    • Justin Wood

      I love the show but it Ensign kim should be leutenant commander kim honestly. They hate his character.

      • JimRockfordsEmptyTrailer

        I heard that Berman didn’t like the actor. Almost killed him off until he was one of the Favorite Sexiest Men in PEOPLE.

  • Beawild

    Mulgrew didn’t like the fact that TPTB thought that to raise the ratings they needed to add some T&A to the show. Considering that most of the sci-fi shows’ viewers are young males, I can see their reasoning. Nonetheless, as a woman, I do understand Mulgrew’s ire. I don’t see the fact that Mulgrew and Ryan didn’t get along as a big deal. They were both professionals and their dislike for each other didn’t show on the air. Who hasn’t had coworkers that they didn’t like? Voyager ended in 2001, why should these two women have to get along now? It’s water under the bridge and they both have moved on. Besides, of the two, Mulgrew was always the better actress and the one with the more successful career. She’s currently doing a great job as “Red” on OITNB. I doubt that either woman cares much what one thinks of the other.

    • Smithian

      They’ve patched things up, so it obviously mattered a bit, and are both doing exceptionally well professionally, just to deflate that bias towards Mulgrew a little bit.

      • Beawild

        Ryan is a pretty face, but Mulgrew has always been the better actress.

        • Smithian

          Mulgrew is a strong actress with plenty of accolades, but there’s no need to dismiss Ryan as “a pretty face,” that’s a low blow that does her a disservice.

          • Beawild

            You’re right, I was a bit tough. She’s a decent actress. I’m just saying that Mulgrew is in a different category.

          • Smithian

            She does have the only Emmy nomination for acting in the cast to date.

  • Nighthawk 572

    They should have kept Kes and dumped Harry. From most accounts I have seen, Wang was the disruptive one.

  • Bradamant

    I’m always happiest when I forego reading _anything_ about the actors behind the shows I love. A lesson I’ve learned over and over again. And yet, here I am.

    Over the years, on those occasions I’ve peeked out of one eye at “articles” like this or interviews online, I’ve noticed a clear division in how the “teams” line up: Mulgrew, Dawson, Picardo, Phillips on one “side” and Beltran, Ryan, McNeill, Wang, and Russ on the other “side.”

    Which all means what? Nothing much.

    I am generally neutral to positive about people until I have a reason not to be. I’m still neutral to positive about both Mulgrew and Ryan, both veritable strangers to me. I think they seem to be both strong, intelligent people and very capable actors.

    The writing for Voyager was more often than not pretty dismal. One of the few highlights was the Janeway/Seven relationship. And that, in a nutshell, is about all I have taken away from Voyager or all I really care to. (And hey, liked the EMH a lot too, at least until they overdid it a bit with his storylines in the late seasons.)

    The obvious slimy underbelly of misogyny behind the scenes, I feel, negatively impacted all the women associated with the show. My only hope, is that somehow, someway, things will get better than they were then (or, unfortunately, too often still are.)

    All my above word vomit just to say: meh, too bad. At least I have the characters I enjoyed and a few episodes that were well done. Wish all the actors luck going forward, but don’t really care too much about their personal 20 yr old tribulations and/or pettiness. Oh well.

    • Maddy

      Here, here. Sometimes it’s hard to escape this sort of petty gossip and rumoring though. As a fan, you want to follow the recent news of your favourite actors, actresses, and television shows. But by following these favourites, you sometimes run the risk of reading things you’d rather not hear.

  • Danny JB

    Voyager as a show was riddled with disgusting production, forcibly stifled ‘writing’ and where genuine acting talent goes to die. I enjoyed parts of the show seven was an incredible addition but no kate mulgrew (in spite of her incredible and powerful turn as Janeway) was a jealous cow and showed Shatner like arrogance, however he embraced spocks popularity she treated jeri ryan like shit how pathetic. ..

  • brillopad6901

    Voyager is my favorite of all the Trek shows, the show only got better once Jeri Ryan came on. Kes wasn’t being used enough or properly so the move was perfect. If the two actresses didn’t get along the viewers shouldn’t care since it really didn’t show on the final product. And I gotta say that while I like Janeway I like 7 of 9 better. If Janeway would’ve got fired I would’ve been fine with it.