In addition to his comments to Collider at the Saturn Awards last night, Star Trek 2017 showrunner Bryan Fuller also talked to MovieFone about the new show, shooting two a few big rumors that have been around the last few months – the ones we suggested you take with a grain of salt:

I’ve read that we’re [set] before “Next Generation,” after [“Star Trek VI: The] Undiscovered Country,” which is false.

I’ve read that it’s an anthology show, which is not accurate. So it’s interesting to see those suggestions, and seeing the truth mixed in with them and going like, “Oh, they got that part right…”

But it’s sort of on the truth-o-meter on PolitiFacts. It’s sort of like some truth, and a lot of like, “No — pants on fire! That’s not true.”

Fuller’s comments here seem to indicate that parts of what’s been reported around the web may be close to the truth, but it appears that the two big rumors – the pre-TNG era as setting, an anthology series as format – are definitely out.

2017-crews

He also weighed in on the the use of “NEW CREWS” – plural – in the CBS teaser trailer:

I think we will be seeing lots of crews in the story. One of the things that is exciting for me is that we are telling a “Star Trek” story in a modern way. We’re telling a 13-chapter story in this first season.

It’s nice to be able to dig deep into things that would have been breezed passed if we were doing episodic and had to contain a story to an episode.

Lastly,  he also hinted towards a revisit of previously-seen Trek characters:

MOVIEFONE: Would you like to revisit any characters? Is there a window open to bring in characters that have been established in the canon?

FULLER: Eventually. Eventually.

All right, everybody – time to throw out those rumors and start the speculation fires burning again!

  • Drifter

    I really have faith in this project. You get the appeal of having a true Star Trek fan and series veteran in charge plus the added bonus that he also created one of the best tv shows of the past few years on top of it.

  • Michael Spadaro

    Previously seen characters, eh? That would SEEM to imply that this is set in the Prime Universe…unless it’s their Abramsverse counterparts.

    • Tuskin38

      “hat would SEEM to imply that this is set in the Prime Universe…unless it’s their Abramsverse counterparts.”

      Or another timeline that is neither.

    • GIBBS v2

      Most of those prime universe OT characters are dead or nearly dead of old age so I think he must be referring to TNG style characters like an old Picard or a Worf. How cool would be a CGI de-aged DATA be?!?!

    • Julian Glover

      i want the two universes to merge, both crews going back in time before it was split. that would be AWESOME

  • Chris

    “I’ve read that we’re [set] before “Next Generation,” after [“Star Trek VI: The] Undiscovered Country,” which is false.”

    Please let this mean we are post TNG/DS9/VOY. It’s probably the strongest hint yet, but we all know how production types like to spin and play games.

    In Fuller we trust!

  • CmdrR

    Really needs to be 25th Century (or after TNG era anyway) to keep from falling into the canon trap. Glad they’re aiming for new territory!

    • Or at the very least, not have Nemesis be the ultimatum for the original franchise. Uck. All those timeless and classic stories lead up to such a disastrous finish?

      • Tuskin38

        Franchise in live action maybe, but the novels continued past Nemesis, people are still writing published stories about the Enterprise, DS9 Voyager and even Enterprise, the Romulan War series was great.

        • Sadly novels will never be regarded as canon. They’re essentially treated no better than fan fiction. They never happened.

          • Tuskin38

            Don’t care, still read them, still enjoy them.

            Well they’re better then fanfiction in 2 ways, CBS gets money from them, and the authors get paid for doing them.

    • Bifash

      It could take place comfortable post-Undiscovered Country, and minimally incorporate classic Trek characters, likely sticking to Chekov, Uhura, and Captain Sulu.

  • Cold Case Posse Supporter

    If he says ‘eventually’ when it comes to bringing in charactersthat have been established in cannon and it doesn’t take place between TUC and TNG, I’m thinking the show will be about Captain Robert April, a period we’ve never explored. Established cannon characters in that period living would be Pike, Sarek, Captain Garrovik, Garth, a young Ron Tracy and a few others. If it’s post TNG,DS9/Voyager, it would have to be post Nemesis with cannon characters still alive in that timeframe to be able to appear.

    • Brian Thorn

      That would be stuck in the “Enterprise Conundrum” where a ship decades earlier looks more modern and sophisticated than a ship set at a later period, or else it looks so cheesy it would not attract the coveted youth audience (no steampunk like Galactica or Budgineering, please.)

      Post-TNG, Prime Universe, All new cast of characters, please. At most, a cameo (Patrick Stewart would be the big name draw) to send them on their way.

  • jerr

    Wow… That’s a bombshell. I was looking forward to a post STVI show, but I wondered how they would deal with prequel problems.

  • I’m guessing multiple eras simultaneously. If you’re gonna go big, why not crews in different eras involved in the same over-arcing plot.

  • Arch Stanton

    “Which is not accurate”, but that’s not a dismissal. He says it’s one 13 part story. So, in a way, it is an anthology. And Cucumberbach wasn’t playing Khan…uh, huh.

    • Tuskin38

      He isn’t JJ. That Khan thing is all on him, he took the blame for it.

      • regeya

        He took the blame for lying about it. Apparently the studio wanted to keep it a secret, because some bigwig thought it’d make people think they had to be Trekkies to enjoy the movie.

        • Eric Cheung

          I think they most likely kept it a secret because the warranted outrage at a white actor yet again playing another character that should have been played by an Asian could have hurt ticket sales. There was no excuse for that, when were likely bigger stars from Bollywood than Cumberbatch was for Sherlock.

          • Ace Stephens

            The “excuse” for that seemed to be, from what I heard at the time, that Benicio Del Toro was ultimately uninterested. …Still not an Asian actor, though, so I don’t know what the reaction would have been exactly.

            But Cumberbatch was a backup plan, a bit like he seems to be for Doctor Strange, which is facing its own “You didn’t cast an Asian?!” issues.

          • Eric Cheung

            Yup. It was a lousy excuse, especially when Bollywood eclipses Hollywood. At least Del Toro would have been a lateral move, instead of a regression.

            And I have no love for Cumberbatch, because this type of insensitivity seems to be a chronic thing with him. He played a transphobic stereotype in Zoolander 2, a neutered version of Alan Turing, and now Doctor Strange.

          • Ace Stephens

            At least Del Toro would have been a lateral move, instead of a regression.

            Agreed there.

            And I have no love for Cumberbatch, because this type of insensitivity seems to be a chronic thing with him.

            I think he’s mostly trying to work within the system in front of him but, because he’s not a “name” enough actor yet is sought-after for certain types of roles, he winds up being in this sort of “alternative” mainstream persona framework. That tends to cause him to be placed in positions portraying characters who might have had interesting, differing (from the “mainstream” or “general audience”), etc. experiences that – for bigger budgeted productions – have been roughly “written over” or similar in order to make the work (what studio execs might think is) “more marketable” (in some cases seemingly because he’s not a mainstream enough actor and they still want it to play well whereas someone with presumably more clout could say, “Have it be closer/better/etc…” or ask for a differing role and for a better-suited actor to be given the one originally offered…and the studio would listen). If he was in a position to “put his foot down,” things might be different but since he’s so often the back-up plan to bigger and/or more-established names (or works a lot within established IP or personas or “ideas”), I think he is typically left in a position where it’s “don’t work” or “try to make it work” and he does the latter.

            With the thought being, generally speaking, that if he doesn’t do it, not only will he not get paid but someone else will probably mess it up more.

          • Marc Henson

            Yeah, but don’t forget, Ricardo MontLeban wasn’t white either…he was Hispanic or something

          • Eric Cheung

            Exactly. Casting Montalban was better than casting white. Casting Del Toro wouldn’t have been as good as casting a Bollywood superstar, but it would have been better than casting an extremely white guy.

          • Tone

            Was Montalban Asian?

          • Eric Cheung

            No, but casting white is even further away from Indian than casting Montalban.

          • regeya

            Slight nitpick: you do not have to be Indian to be Sikh.

  • D.J. Ammons

    I think he means it is not an anthology series in the sense that each season it will not be a new cast, ship, etc. I had a feeling that rumor was not true because the cost of all new sets from year to year would be prohibitive. Sounds like each season will be one complete story arc over 13 episodes or “chapters” as he refers to them.

    • eyeresist

      I think he means that with multiple crews we will get to follow a number of individual stories, which will be “kind of” like an anthology.

    • Bifash

      “I had a feeling that rumor was not true because the cost of all new sets from year to year would be prohibitive”. Perfectly put. My thoughts exactly.

  • Havenbull

    This needs to be post-TNG. Anything else is a rehash of an established story line. We need to move forward damn it.

    30+ years after the events of Nemesis should be the new time frame… leaves it very open for guest stars from the prime universe…

    • iMike

      I would actually like them to go a couple hundred years post-TNG/DS9/VOY. That would give the writers the opportunity to create a couple hundred years of Federation history and pay homage to previous incarnations without being tied down by them.

  • Eric

    The USS Relativity from VOY was a timeship. In the distant future the Federation is fractured and a crew is sent back in time to correct history. Yes, Quantum Leap. A story in each season might be one mission. Hmmmmm.

    • SpaceCadet

      Personally, I think Star Trek has done time travel to death. I’d like the writers to avoid doing more of those types of stories.

      • regeya

        That was one of my fears with J. J. Abrams; the few episodes I’d seen of Lost, to me, kept making me look for Brannon Braga in the credits, because I kept thinking the island was stuck in some kind of spatial anomaly.

        And of course the 2009 movie was a time travel movie. SMH.

        • Julian Glover

          not really, more about the effects of time travel and less the actual thing itsself

    • Bifash

      They could name the series “TIME TREK” instead of “STAR TREK”.

  • SpaceCadet

    Sounds like this will be a show based on not just one ship but an entire fleet, so basically “Star Trek” meets “Game of Thrones” where you jump from one set of characters to another but they all exist in the same world/universe and various characters eventually intersect/interact with one another. And there is one overriding arc for the season so it should culminate in something big of fleet proportions. Sounds very exciting to me!

    • Rickardus

      I agree!

  • Vamroc M Sylar

    I’d like an episode totally devoted to life aboard a Borg Cube

  • Juliana Brown

    “we are telling a “Star Trek” story in a modern way. ”

    Modern compared to what? The 00’s? Or is this one of those things where every time there’s a new series, everybody acts as if this is the first thing since TOS and makes all those comparisons?

    I hate to state the obvious so bluntly, but MOST of the Trekkies that grew up with TOS are gone or old enough to not be wasting their precious time commenting on forums. This will be compared to 90’s-00’s trek by the vast majority of internet active fans of the franchise.

    The reboot franchise is ridiculous and doesn’t count. I can take it about slightly less seriously then the animated series.

    • DC Forever

      Compared to the late Berman era crap.

      Sounds good go me!

    • MJ

      I hate to state the obvious, but TOS fans are not only still around, but the series has grown even more iconic in recent years with many new fans worldwide, as TNG era series have started to fade from the public’s memory. People under 25 know TOS, but many are barely aware of TNG, DS9 and Voyager. And like it or not, JJ-Trek has reinforced the dominance in the public’s perception of TOS-based Trek — people know Captain Kirk and Mr. Spock; while Picard and company are fading in terms of general public consciousness.

      You are way off base, so I forgive you for being condescending about the way you presented your misinformed opinions here. The exact opposite of what you claim is the case today.

      • RM

        “People under 25 know TOS, but many are barely aware of TNG, DS9 and Voyager.”

        Please share your sources for this comment.

        • MJ

          LOL. Just talk to regular people and kids under 25 (not fanboy types obviously)…you can prove this to yourself in 15 min by asking 10 people at a Starbucks anywhere.

          • DaMac

            All the people I know under 30 know TNG really well. I think you way underestimate what a cultural touchstone that show was. DS9 and Voyager I agree with you on.

          • MJ

            Well, see what you just did here – you raised my age threshold in my comment from 25 to 30 to be able to say that. So you are kind of acknowledging that the youngest generation now is not very aware of TNG.

          • RM

            I’m not interested in proving this to myself. I was curious as to where your numbers came from. Based on your reply, you made them up.

      • Tone

        Your totally wrong.

      • It certainly would be interesting to see viewershop numbers from Netflix for all of the Trek series. I agree with the basic idea that more people are aware of Kirk and Spock, but I don’t know if that translates to actual viewing numbers. It doesn’t hurt TOS that there is a current series of movies based on it.

      • Eskay

        Your are 100% correct. Well said.

    • DistantEarlyWarning611

      Most of us Star Trek fans from TOS love TNG Era as well because of the accurate continuation of the story line plus they were just great shows. Also although we’re older than you (obviously) we’re not being wheelchaired around in an old folks home drinking smoothies because our fkng teeth fell out. I’m only 50, I know how to use the Internet (shock) up on all social media (not impressed) and can discuss things in a forum, although comments like yours are discouraging and make me feel much older than I am. So grow up kid, I was a fan since it all began, love TNG Era Trek as do millions of others my age. You shouldn’t make opinions on people you know nothing about….

    • Hey, now. Don’t go knocking the animated series. As far as I am concerned, that’s seasons four and five of the original series. Same cast, same quality. Yes, there are some missteps. But I think few would argue that the low points of the animated series are any worse then, say, “Spock’s Brain.” Yet on the other hand, the animated series offers up many excellent stories, as well, including some with concepts that would have been difficult to pull off with live action at the time even if they did have a huge effects budget.
      I know Roddenberry himself discounted it, but to me, there is little difference between TOS and TAS.

    • Matrix

      They’re going to make a show using the style and techniques of shows that exist today, so accessible drama mixed with fast paced action and affordable CGI. Every Trek show is emblematic of the decade it is made in and yes the 60s and 80s and 90s and 00s shows are great but in order to keep Trek alive and fresh and draw in new viewers it absolutely MUST adapt to what is happening now.

      • DaMac

        This is all completely true. It’s also the reason I am not excited about it much, since I don’t like much modern TV.

    • Matineer

      The shows have been streaming, so many new fans have seen TOS there, or seen the remastered show in syndication. TOS was syndicated widely into the 90s, so many younger people have seen it, and many, judging from some internet comments, consider themselves fans. TNG fans, I would assume, go back via video to see how it all started. My only hope for the new show is that is doe not become a interminable soap opera format, with no real conclusions — except perhaps in a finale. I don’t want Kirk-style last second saves (would be nice once in a while) but there should be complete stories sometimes.

    • Bifash

      “but MOST of the Trekkies that grew up with TOS are gone or old enough to not be wasting their precious time commenting on forums”.
      Alas, we are a dying breed. It is true that most Trek fans nowadays are more accurately TNG, and Post-TNG Trek fans.

    • My guess is the new show will be informed by Game of Thrones. Many characters, many locations, plotlines that intertwine. Of course, it also might focus on one main character whose agenda sends him to multiple ships and planets. Just too many possibilities without a bit more info.

    • MalachiConstant

      Modern compared to the state of television in the pre-Sopranos era, most likely. Back in the day every single show was a procedural and the room for permanent change between the episodes was minimal. I’m pretty sure Fuller is talking about doing something where the episodes tie into bigger arcs each season with more focus on storytelling that is allowed to affect and change the universe.

      I think it’s a good thing personally. Star Trek has always had massive potential in this sense because there’s so much going on, but it has largely remained untapped. Drama is built around the possibility that the world in the fiction can change, but you lose a lot of that when the episodes have to be self-contained. Very few things that happened in one episode in TOS or TNG were crucial to understanding what was going on three episodes (let alone a season) later.

      • Julian Glover

        yeah, so basically like the modern shows, probably will have similar shaped arcs to supernatural. Having a buildup o a season finale, and having an ongoing mission tyat is interspersed with episodic mistery.

  • Brian Thorn

    In other words, we still know absolutely nothing about this new show.

    • Joseph Reilly

      Trek=Trek. I’ll be welcoming it with an open mind and heart!

  • Eric Cheung

    Yeah, there was no reason to believe that the show would take place after TUC, just because Fuller said that it would be a jumping off point. For one thing, he was talking to Meyer about that, so it was a common frame of reference. For another, I thought it was pretty obviously about tone and themes, not setting. The anthology idea seemed to be another baseless extrapolation.

    I just hope for a peek into the civilian life, the economics and politics of Federation life.

  • scooternva

    “I think we will be seeing lots of crews in the story. One of the things that is exciting for me is that we are telling a “Star Trek” story in a modern way. We’re telling a 13-chapter story in this first season.”

    The Earth-Romulan War?

  • GIBBS v2

    I was never jazzed about the whole Anthology concept. It usually takes a minimum of two years for a cast and a show to really gel and fire on all cylinders.

  • Jeff Fetrow

    I still want a Klingon-based Trek series. Dorn was really pushing for it, and I thought he might pull it off. It would be cool to see the relationship with the Federation from the other side…

    • Kwame

      A good idea but a series where the majority of the cast is in makeup? Sounds expensive.

      • Bifash

        They did it back in the day for Planet of the Apes. I’m sure with a much bigger budget ( than in the 1970s ) they could do well now.

    • Lostrod

      The Klingons as seen in TNG are the last ones I want to see. They had no relation to the TOS Klingons and just got annoying as time progressed.
      Regards.

    • Jim Levitt

      You still don’t get it. CBS has proven that they don’t really care what you (plural to everyone here) want to see. They are going to make a show that THEY think people will PAY 6 bucks a month to see …….in THEIR opinion (and, I’m sure, some marketing studies).

  • Charlie Oakes

    It needs to be set 15 years after Nemesis. They can use Data’s resurrection story from countdown to darkness and all the TNG cast can cameo in it. I think this makes the most sense. At least the 2nd part.

  • Mo

    I really hope they don’t “revisit” anyone we’ve already met. I’ve had quite enough of that sort of nostagia rabbit hole.

    • Julian Glover

      except borg. There has to be borg.

      But please, no more Kazon, NO MORE!

  • ADeweyan

    I really liked the idea of an anthology show — or maybe three or four different ships/casts/eras that they could rotate between. Yes, that would have meant more investment in sets and props — but with modern CGI, not as much as it would have meant in past decades.

    I’m still intrigued by Nicholas Meyer’s comment about this taking Star Trek in a new direction (or something like that). I don’t think he would have gotten involved if this was just going to be a new crew exploring in a new ship. With so many hundreds of episodes with that basic premise, it would be impossible to come up with stories that would not appear to be retreads of previous episodes. I’m hoping the new series shake things up and takes off to new territory.

  • David Eckels

    Bring Robert April into canon. He has been left out in the cold far too long.

  • Tone

    Sick of Klingons to be honest, most klingon themed episodes in any series were pretty boring, lots of shouting, roaring, posturing, stunt fighting and not much else.

    What exactly do you want from a Klingon only Trek series?

    • anonamoose

      Yes! Something new! that’ll hopefully work well.

    • Deads

      Lots of rotation in the actors cause they get killed a lot.
      A new captain everytime he doesnt do the Klingon thing and gets killed by his 2nd in command.

    • Julian Glover

      yeah, worf was fun though.

  • Daniel Fleming

    I’m wondering if they are going to go a game of thrones style show, as that seems to match what he’s saying. As in having multiple crews as viewpoints in the world to help tell the bigger story.

  • Paul Gregory Johnson

    Romulan war…needs to be a story line…no doubt.

  • spooky

    Please… no more Klingons.

  • Tzadik

    Very pleased these rumors are now dead. Still makes me curious, though, given that CBS now has an official designation for the Abrams movies. *COUGH* YOU SHOULD LOOK INTO THAT, TREKCORE *COUGH*

    Not saying that the “Kelvin Timeline” is the setting of the new series… we still know so little. Still, I want to MOVE FORWARD, either in the Prime or Kelvin timelines.

    • Julian Glover

      what they need to do is have both of the crews travel back in time to before it was split so they can meet from different timelines

  • California Kid

    Then what is the time period? I would like to see something that’s set between Enterprise B and Enterprise D. I’d also like to see something that’s set between Star Trek 6 and Star Trek 8, and something between Reboot 1 and Star Trek 8.

  • Spacenut

    I don’t know whether to be worried or excited about the new show, what I don’t want is “Game of Trek” with the show trying to be oh so modern and relevant with dark and gritty story lines that bear little or no resemblance to the original vision, I don’t want to see tonnes of writhing naked flesh, give us sexy Orion Slave girls, cat suit clad voluptuousness or leggy mini dress and go-go boot wearing crew members but stop there, I don’t need to see every damn detail leave plenty to the imagination. I don’t want crew members with a vocabulary that generally consists of simply placing different vocal emphasis on infinite uses of the F word, I also don’t want painful pseudo swearing such as frak this fraking that. I don’t want to see graphic decapitations or disembowelment etc. action and adventure are the key to good star trek, not violence. Lets finally have a sci-fi series that plays up positivity not dark and gritty, Remember Star trek is about exploration of the unknown not just epic battle scenes and dark story arcs. Bring on the temporal anomalies, the transporter malfunctions, the energy based life forms, the insular alien races and the omnipotent beings.

  • Willie Jones 3rd

    I WAS REALLY LOOKING FORWARD TO IT TAKING PLACE BETWEEN KIRK AND PICARDS TIMELINES. NOW I HOPE THAT SOMEONE WILL MAKE A FAN FILM SERIES OF THE ENTERPRISE B AND EVENTS DURING THAT MISSING ERA! SORRY MR. FULLER BUT YOU JUST LOST ONE FAN FOR YOUR STAR TREK SERIES, AND SOME OTHERS WHO HOPED YOU WOULD TELL ABOUT THAT MISSING LOST ERA OF STAR TREK WHICH TOOK PLACE BEFORE NEXT GENERATION! MAKES ME APPRECIATE FAN FILMS MORE AND MORE! AT LEAST THEY LISTEN TO WHAT SOME FANS WANT!

  • Willie Jones 3rd

    AN ANTHOLOGY STAR TREK SERIES WOULD HAVE BEEN GREAT ALSO< BUT I GUESS SOME PEOPLE JUST DONT CARE WHAT OTHERS WANT! THIS IS WHY FANS MAKE THEIR OWN STAR TREK STORIES!

  • Willie Jones 3rd

    IT WOULD HAVE BEEN GOOD FOR THE LOST ERA OF TREK TO BE TOLD! NOW I GUESS WE NOW MUST FIND SOMEONE ELSE TO AT LEAST MAKE A FAN FILM SERIES ABOUT THE ERA BETWEEN KIRK AND PICARDS TIMELINES! SORRY MR. FULLER YOU JUST LOST SOME FANS WHO WANTED THE STORIES OF TREKS LOST ERA TO BE TOLD, ENTERPRISE B , AND OTHER EVENTS! AN ANTHOLOGY SERIES WOULD HAVE BEEN A GREAT IDEA! TO BAD YOUR NOT DOING THAT! MAKES ME APPRECIATE FAN FILMS MORE AND MORE, AT LEAST THEY LISTEN TO WHAT WE WANT!

    • Julian Glover

      I REALLY LIKE YOUR COMMENT STYLE BUT I CANT HEAR MYSELF THINK WITH ALL THAT SHOUTING

  • Pedro Ferreira

    Serialised television oftentimes in today’s TV is an excuse for lazy writing. Kind of wish they’d gone episodic as it forces the writers to be more creative.

  • October_1985

    I’m pretty tired of Klingons, honestly, been done to death.
    I guess Patrick Stewart is harder to get these days, but… do you think we could get to see Captain Riker and Troi, Janeway, Sisko, etc… in this new series? even as a cameo? I wouldn’t mind it at all. Its kind of a tradition that characters from the old series appear to send off new crews… McCoy in TNG, Picard in DS9… errr, Quark in VOY…

    • Julian Glover

      yeah! like maybe even a main or secondary character, kinda like worf in ds9, but a little less prominent.

  • (((y_snow)))

    Could we get CCHPounder as captain, please? She’d bring ’em home every time from anywhere, promiss!