After finally being named by CBS to lead Star Trek: Discovery this fall, actress Sonequa Martin-Green has shared her thoughts on her role of Michael Burnham, and joining the Star Trek franchise across several new interviews arriving this week.

Speaking with Vulture‘s E. Alex Jung, Martin-Green spoke at length about leaving The Walking Dead, and her personal relationship with Trek:

I’m used to being on a show that reaches a lot of people in such a huge way, and it’s definitely one of those things that you hope for and dream about. So [like being on ‘The Walking Dead’], I have experienced it before.

I mean, the ‘Star Trek’ universe is so vast. There’s a lot of it I still have to catch up on, and a lot of new experiences even with what I already have under my belt as well.

I love the original series. It’s my favorite out of all of them, and I just love the dynamic between Kirk and Spock. All the characters on the show had rich relationships. I found myself just keeping it on in the background when I was doing a lot of my work when I first started.

SMG, LLAP: Martin-Green flashes the Vulcan salute on ‘Talking Dead.’ (AMC)

She also shared thoughts on the new role with The Hollywood Reporter’s Lesley Goldberg on Monday, where Martin-Green commented on the timing of leaving The Walking Dead and signing up for Star Trek.

‘Star Trek’ was nowhere in the picture [when I learned I was leaving ‘The Walking Dead’]… Star Trek came way later, after this was all said and done. We were shooting the [‘Walking Dead’] finale before the opportunity for ‘Star Trek’ came about.

There was a little time [off between the two shows], but not too much! It was pretty back-to-back. There were the holidays, which were nice. There were definitely the holidays to sit and think a little bit about it.

On how her ‘Michael Burnham’ character brings a different angle to Discovery:

Being the first officer on the ship [as the lead character] is going to be a wild ride because we haven’t seen that happen before in the ‘Star Trek’ canon, we haven’t seen the story be told from the perspective of the first officer rather than the captain.

It’s going to open up so much potential for new storylines because not being the captain automatically gives you a different perspective.

It’s going to be a wild ride and everybody on board — in front of the camera and behind — I’ve been floored by the performances on ‘The Walking Dead’ from the beginning and I’m going to be astounded again by the people we’ve got assembled on ‘Star Trek.’ I’m really excited.

Lastly, the actress spent time discussing the new position with TV Line‘s Charlie Mason, as well as the pressure that comes with being the lead on a Star Trek series with the franchise’s lengthy history.

There’s definitely a lot of responsibility to being the lead of any show, and obviously to be the lead of this, [an offshoot of] one of the most popular, if not the most popular, television series of all-time… you can certainly get lost in it if you allow yourself to, and just sort of be frozen.

[I’m] swimming with the gratitude of it, and that’s carrying me through. I’m still blinking to see, ‘Is this real? Oh my goodness.’ But I hope that I can bear the weight, if you will, of this legacy and of this story, because I certainly want to do it justice.

She also added some additional thoughts to the tone of the series, in line with several past statements from those involved in Discovery pre-production.

This iteration of ‘Star Trek’ is going to have a different take than the others in the Star Trek canon. It’s going to be bigger, rawer and grittier… and the story’s going to build on itself. It’s going to be a tremendous journey.

We look forward to learning more about the show – and Michael Burnham – as we approach Star Trek: Discovery‘s debut later this year.

  • The cast of Discovery is very impressive, and that alone has stoked my interest. A lot of money and talent is being invested in this show, I have high hopes that it pays off. I like this phase of production right before we actually know anything definitive about the story, it could be almost anything! Multiple ships, including a Klingon vessel, a large cast, those gigantic sets we saw being constructed, even the question of what the Discovery will actually look like by the time we see it’s final design. Exciting!

  • Locutus

    Saying all the right things Sonequa! I am really looking forward to her contributions to this promising new Star Trek.

  • DC Forever

    “This iteration of ‘Star Trek’ is going to have a different take than the others in the Star Trek canon. It’s going to be bigger, rawer and grittier… and the story’s going to build on itself. It’s going to be a tremendous journey.”

    September can’t some soon enough for me! Thank goodness L. Moonves stepped in when he did to get this series back on track.

    • scotchyscotchscotch

      RDM’s BSG came to mind when I read that quote, which is not a bad thing (until season 4 🙂 )

      • M33

        As soon as they made the Cylons bickering and petty, they lost all gravitas.
        Before that, they always seemed five steps ahead, an enemy almost impossible to overcome, which was brilliant.
        And then…

        • SFSeries&Movies

          I agree! Love the first 2 seasons and the season 3 start, which reminds me of DS9’s season 6 opening, after that it went downhill imo

      • Pedro Ferreira

        The remake of BSG was terrible.

        • M33

          LOL
          It had its moments, in my opinion.
          Although the source material was pretty terrible to begin with!

          • Pedro Ferreira

            The original BSG was terrific, the remake was terrible.

          • M33

            Glad we are all different!
            Viva la difference!

    • Andrew Cardinale

      Also, that paragraph can be used verbatim to describe DS9. Just sayin . . .

      • Zarm

        That it may be responsible for the total downfall of Star Trek, being used as precedent every time the series gets further and further from anything that resembles actual Star Trek? Because if so, I agree. 🙂

        • M33

          Darker, grittier…

          Hmm…
          Where have I heard that Hollywood thinking before…

          (See Stargate SG-1 Episode 200)

          Nevertheless, Discovery is sure to be a unique entry into the canon.
          (Assuming it will be considered as such, as TAS is not, and even ST5 is considered possibly apocryphal)

        • Andrew Cardinale

          I meant my comment in two ways:

          1. That it’s funny/sad that they think there hasn’t been a darker/gritter version of ST that has a story that “builds on itself” before.

          2. That, if it’s anything like DS9, I’m probably going to like it, because DS9 is my favorite series.

          Zarm, I totally understand where you’re coming from, and I would absolutely not want this to be BSG levels of dark/grittiness with a ST skin (though I love BSG). DS9, I think, pushes on that boundary as much as it can without breaking it, so if they’re staying in that ballpark, I think they’ll be ok.

          • Harry Kane

            Totally agree^^^ DS9 was that dark and gritter version. I also loved DS9 Intresting that more people were exicted about the DS9 documentary that the ST Discovery…. Show’s u were people’s tastes lie.

          • M33

            DS9 was brilliant in that it took Federation utopian values and challenged them to their core when faced with the reality of interacting with different cultures who do not share the same values.

            It is easy to be accepting and tolerant of all when everyone agrees with you.

          • Steven Carter

            It didn’t test them, it violated them out of spite & a desire to defie Roddenberys vision of Star Trek & piss all over it.

          • M33

            The utopian future as Trek depicted was showing how humanity and the Federation could live as an idealistic intercultural society.
            Even TOS had to deal with clashing of cultures outside of this philosophy.
            DS9 took it a step further and made the Federation characters the minorities amidst a wide range of alien philosophies, which is a great way to test these “utopian” values.

          • The Science Fiction Oracle

            I knew Gene Roddenberry. One thing I can assure you is that if you behaved like such an ass like this in his presence, he quietly tell others’ to “make sure that this mean-sprinted, arrogant know-it-all” isn’t invited to future discussions.”

            Gene did not suffer angry fools.

          • M33

            I always enjoy a civil discussion of disparate ideas!

          • The Science Fiction Oracle

            Agreed!

          • Locutus

            Wait! Wait! Wait! You knew Gene Roddenberry? Name-dropper.

            😉

          • Pedro Ferreira

            Yeah at a fan convention I bet. Ha, ha!

          • Locutus

            Well, that’s more than I could say. It’s like Christian who actually met Christ. Still amazing!

            😉

          • Pedro Ferreira

            I wouldn’t go that far. Ha, ha!

          • The Science Fiction Oracle
          • Pedro Ferreira

            Was he once a wrestler? No idea who he is.

          • The Science Fiction Oracle

            Seriously, you never heard of The Tonight Show with Johnny Carson and Ed McMahon?

          • M33

            And what about his $1,000,000 check giveaways??
            Man, those things were classic!

          • The Science Fiction Oracle

            Yea!!!

          • Pedro Ferreira

            Do I live in the US?

          • The Science Fiction Oracle

            Have you ever heard of the Academy Awards?

          • Pedro Ferreira

            “Have you ever heard of the Academy Awards?” Yes because the Oscars are a global phenomenon obviously.

            “I think you are completely bullshitting me here. You’d have to live under a rock in New Guinea not to know who Johhny Carson was.” I’m not bullshitting you. I only vaguely know Johnny Carson because he’s seen as a famous talk show host thanks to me being interested in TV history. Ask the average person in my country who he is and they won’t know what the hell you’re talking about.

            You assume much but don’t know the facts. Ask anyone in your country what a Sega Master System is and most won’t know what that is. LOL indeed.

          • M33

            Sega Master System… now THAT I know!

          • Pedro Ferreira

            Unfortunately no one else in America does.

          • M33

            Oh man…
            I have no clue who any of those people are!
            Then again, I don’t follow the media, TV, music, youtube, etc., so that would probably explain it.

          • The Science Fiction Oracle

            You and Pedro really need to get out more. 😉

          • Locutus

            As for myself, you could say that again!

          • Pedro Ferreira

            I think you need to get out of the fan conventions into the real world personally…

          • The Science Fiction Oracle

            A friend and I hosted Gene for four days in Wash DC for four days in the late 70’s for a pro-space movement event we were putting on. Drove around town with him, had drinks, dinners, conversations, etc.

          • Pedro Ferreira

            Not bad. Gene didn’t like DS9 dark, edgy Star Trek though.

          • The Science Fiction Oracle

            He liked it fine enough for TOS. Granted, later in life he didn’t like it as much, but then again that is why he kind of failed by having no character conflicts in the first two seasons of TNG.

          • M33

            In the interviews with Gene on the 20th Anniversary Soundtrack for Star Trek The Motion Picture, I don’t have the exact quote, but Gene said something along the lines of “My vision of Star Trek is not the only one that matters, because I will be thrilled if in the future some other people take what I’ve created and do their own thing with it and then people watch that version of my creation and say ‘Now, that’s Star Trek’!”

            It is an interesting listen, and it really changed my views on what Star Trek “should” be.
            Even in Gene’s eyes, it can really be anything.
            The core of it is about how humanity has moved past its differences to work together for a better future for themselves as a whole.
            The settings, the interactions with other aliens cultures, is all mutable.
            I suggest taking the time to listen to it.

          • Pedro Ferreira

            The original Star Trek wasn’t dark and edgy. Anyway for all it’s faults the first two seasons weren’t bad at all.

          • The Science Fiction Oracle

            A Piece of the Action

            Space Seed

            Balance of Terror

            The Man Trap

            nuff said……

          • Pedro Ferreira

            Oh come on, that was Star Trek at it’s most normal. That’s not gritty and dark. DS9 is gritty and dark.

          • Steven Carter

            Bitch, he’d be too bust spinning in his grave to even notice me.
            If you really knew him you would know how it pained him to loose control of the series & have it taken over by people who didn’t understand it

          • The Science Fiction Oracle

            “Bitch, please.”

            Caught a nerve there, eh Einstein?

          • Zarm

            That, I definitely agree with.

        • DS9 is King

          But that would be great I am so happy Les Moonves took over, Les Moonves Does not like Star Trek but he wants to make it into something he likes so he fired Bryan Fuller who wanted to go back to the Roddenberry/Rick Berman Era of long winded discussion of Diplomacy peace morels and ethics and Les Moonves had the last word and fired Fuller. Les Moonves wants to make this series Darker edgier Rawer and Grittier with a Game of thrones like feel heck even Rod Roddenberry said that Old Star Trek fans may not like this new series.

          • M33

            Really? Rod said that?
            Is that sorta like when Damon Lindeloff said “This isn’t your father’s Star Trek” about Star Trek 2009 before he forgot he said it?

          • Locutus

            If Bryan Fuller was really “fired”, I don’t see why they would select new showrunners who are so closely a part of his existing production team. It seems to me Fuller was stretched too thin, so he handed the show over to his deputies. I would take it at face value, at least for now.

          • Xandercom

            And yet the delays mean that he could have worked on it anyway and would be working on it right now. Instead he’s not even part of the production team anymore.

            You would have thought that the person who got Discovery started and wrote the stories would at least come back in an executive capacity to oversee his vision. It makes zero sense, so clearly Fuller’s availability is not the reason why he left.

            The rumour mill churning states that Fuller was told to make a bunch of changes by Moonves which he knew Trek fans would not accept (see the concept art for one thing), so he begrudgingly left rather than make something so far from his vision that he had no interest in being a part of it.

            If Fuller felt the need to leave his “dream job” over it, then it doesn’t bode well for the fan’s acceptance of Discovery.

          • Locutus

            While the pictures of alleged Klingons are more recent, the “concept art” you are referring to is over a year old. It was commissioned during Fuller’s involvement, not after. If anything, that WAS his vision. Les Moonves had nothing to do with that concept art. I don’t see him weighing in on Klingon make-up choices.

            Moreover, the “rumor mill” is just that–rumor and speculation. These are just the pet theories of sour fans with no concrete evidence to back it up. If Moonves really came down on the production team’s CREATIVE choices and not the delays, I would expect the whole team to walk instead of Fuller handing the reigns over to his deputies.

          • Xandercom

            Sources of your hearsay?

          • Locutus

            Hahaha, Trekcore! Trekcore exclusively posted this concept art you linked to in like January or February of 2016. They pulled it at the request of the artist or studio I believe.

          • Xandercom

            Indeed. It’s because the artist broke his NDA by putting them in his online portfolio.

          • Locutus

            Yeah that sounds right. I actually think the pictures are interesting. I’d be surprised to see them in exactly that form on screen though.

          • Xandercom

            The internal sets have been constructed to mimic the concept art. I doubt they would stop there. Dumb move on Worthington’s part though, I don’t understand why he would even consider posting it online before being aired. They may well have been concepts Fuller rejected, and so perfectly OK to put online, then Moonves order his replacement(s) to go with them.
            https://markworthington.viewbook.com/

          • Locutus

            I know what you mean about the internal set design looking similar. I just really doubt Moonves ordered Fuller’s own deputies (Gretchen Berg and Aaron Harberts) to replace Fuller’s own ideas with ones he had rejected. Fuller may have been onboard with that concept art for all we know (and we know very little really). I don’t think Berg and Harberts would go along with Moonves over Fuller. Moreover, I don’t think Moonves really likes Star Trek, much less enough to get involved in day-to-day creative choices. He was probably more concerned about the production delays. He just wants his cash cow to cash in on as soon as possible. He’s a money man. Just speculating of course.

          • Xandercom

            He was supposed to be staying on in an executive role, then even that was taken away from him. They took his stuff, said thank you very much, dont call us, we’ll call you.

          • Locutus

            Hahaha, Trekcore! Trekcore exclusively posted this concept art you linked to in like January or February of 2016. They pulled it at the request of the artist or studio I believe.

    • Steven Carter

      Are you High? or just a Deep Space 9 fan (it’s Not Star Trek & was never meant to be)

      • The Science Fiction Oracle

        Deep Space 9 is the most TOS-like of any of the Bergman series. That’s a FACT, Mensa.

        • Steven Carter

          The FACT is you apparently don’t know the meaning of what a Fact is.

          • The Science Fiction Oracle

            Wow, what an incredibly brilliant comeback. LMFAO

          • Pedro Ferreira

            For the Oracle you sure didn’t see that one coming. Ha, ha!

    • Pedro Ferreira

      Bigger, rawer, grittier? Yeah nothing like Trek so definitely not back on track.

  • Redshirt

    Hey CBS can we finally get a cast photo on the bridge?

  • Xandercom

    Still another dumb prequel though, it’s doomed.

    • Locutus

      I really don’t understand this sentiment. Just because there is some established history, doesn’t mean there are not new stories to be told or it cannot be interesting. In some respects, post-Nemesis tech was so advanced it killed the drama. There was always some techno-babble solution to everything.

      As long as there is some genuine human drama, and that can be found in any generation of Star Trek, there are plenty of stories to tell. Sure, we know Earth or Starfleet won’t be destroyed, but if they create relatable characters, there can still be good drama and real jeopardy for the characters we grow to love.

      • Xandercom

        People have been sick of reboot origin stories for some time now. To tart this up as anything else is simply not true, and will be it’s demise.

        • Locutus

          Well, I disagree with your generalizations about “people.” I think of it more as a historical period piece drama (all-be-it Star Trek history) than a “prequel” or “reboot.” And it is not a reboot as I understand it. All the doom and gloom just seems baseless to me, but I understand if you a disappointed by the time period. I myself was hoping more for it to be post-Star Trek VI, but I will wait and see.

          • Xandercom

            That’s your problem.

          • Locutus

            Not taking the bait. Good day to you sir. I said good day!

          • Xandercom

            Adios!

          • Steven Carter

            Bye, don’t bother coming back. Go watch BSG.

          • The Science Fiction Oracle

            You really need to reconsider that beard.

          • Steven Carter

            OMG I’m not man enough to maintain my own Facial Hair- so my opinions must be totally invalid now. Idiot.

          • Pedro Ferreira

            At least you don’t hide your face behind a picture of the Enterprise.

          • The Science Fiction Oracle
          • Pedro Ferreira

            And you just proved my point. (slow clap).

          • The Science Fiction Oracle
          • Pedro Ferreira

            Need I say more?

          • The Science Fiction Oracle

            It’s just a really, really bad beard and trim job.

          • Pedro Ferreira

            That’s not Baltar, that’s an imposter.

          • Fctiger

            You can’t count TOS man. Sure obviously it wasn’t that successful at the time but its clearly got more popular later on, hence why they made a $40 million film around it, the most expensive film for its time and we got a spin off with TNG. That ONLY happened because TOS was way more popular later on.

            As I said before, I actually agree with a lot of your sentiments but I really hope people don’t compare my issues with yours. I just think the franchise does better moving forward as I believe that of MOST franchises. Too much nostalgia trying to please older fans isn’t a guarantee as Enterprise and Beyond recently just proved. That was the most TOS of the film series and still bombed. Its now April and there is not one official word another KT film is coming now. Those movies might be done for good now but we’ll see.

            But yes I agree in THAT sense trying to make prequels to please old fans doesn’t seem any less of a risk. People are not big fan of prequels. That said I still think if Discovery is good and do something differently it will do fine. You just personally come off too bitter, insulting and whiny over it. You may be right about it. You also maybe wrong. Making constant posts how much you hate isn’t going to keep the show from happening so just wait and see and stop moaning about it.

          • Xandercom

            It won’t please anyone other than trying to bring in new casual viewers.
            Fans of Trek will be disappointed all round. A prequel to a 1960’s TV show is never going to work, regardless of it’s budget.

            The TOS fans will probably not like it, but will accept it for what it is as it’s better than nothing, whereas everyone else is disappointed on yet another prequel to TOS, so will have much lower expectations and probably will be the first to bail. Mark my words.

          • Fctiger

            Sigh your words are marked. Now are you going to whine about it for another five months? Because seriously everyone has heard it about 100 times now from you here and Trekmovie.

            And no one is fooled by all the sock puppets you make both here and on that site.

          • Xandercom

            Press the ignore button, rather than constantly moaning that I am constantly moaning.

          • Fctiger

            Sadly there is not one on Trekmovie. And if you can give us all the sock puppets you have here I will ignore those too as I imagine most people.

          • Steven Carter

            so your intelligent response is to Dismiss peoples opinions as One fan using multiple profiles lol
            Dillusional

          • The Science Fiction Oracle

            Says the dude he shows up today blasting everyone with viewpoints different than his as not true fans of Star Trek.

            Pot calling the kettle black.

            And if Fctiger, who I respect, even though we have our disagreements, suggests you have sock-puppets, I don’t take that lightly – he wouldn’t say that unless he had a solid suspicion.

          • Steven Carter

            That’s my facbook Profile genius. I legally Changed my last name a few months ago so I should be “Steven White” but that’s my only Identity- unlike the others who hide their identities.

          • The Science Fiction Oracle

            So you say. Given Fctiger’s suspicions though, you can bet that a lot of us will be watching here closely to see if new posters suddenly show up here to support you.

          • Fctiger

            Nothing ‘delusional’ about it. This guy has about 3-4 sock puppets between this board and Trekmovie. It could actually be more. But they aren’t hard to spot. They all have a huge on disdain about TOS, same insults about TOS fans in general and all seem to be based out of the UK coincidentally enough like that guy is.

            And I’m not dismissing his opinion. How many times have I said he’s free not to like the show? Hell *I* don’t even know if I will like it yet and I’m actually JUST as conflicted as he is in many ways. What bothers me is the constant insults and put downs he makes of others here and this immature need to want to see the show fail because it didn’t take place in the time period he wanted to. Yeah, life can be a bitch. Grow up already. Having an opinion isn’t the issue, telling everyone they are stupid for wanting to give it a chance and hoping the show will fail is where people start to eye roll over it.

          • Steven Carter

            WTF? I am “Trekboi” on Trekmovie & that is my only name/profile.
            It’s so sad that you have to create the lie/dillusion that there is only one person that has this opinion & that one person is using what would have to be Hundreds or thousands of “sock puppets” to make it look like it is a shared view & has been for years or decades in the case of DS9.

            Sad that you have to go that far to deny other views (the correct ones)

          • Fctiger

            Uh I had no idea who you were until you responded to me I wasn’t accusing you of anything, I was saying XANDERCOM has multiple sock puppets and not you who I thought I was making clear about this discussion was even about. Yeah, I guess not.

            And again, you seriously have the reading comprehension of a third grader. For the third time, I actually agree with a lot of his views, its the snarky insults that is what I’m really dismissing. How could you not get this by now?

          • MichaelMeir-Wright

            Yes, because you can speak for all TOS fans and all Star Trek fans.

            You moan now but I guarantee that you will be singing it’s praises when it blows you away.

          • Xandercom

            Think you need to get some perspective outside of these hardcore fan websites.

          • MichaelMeir-Wright

            I like my perspective just fine. Don’t tell me what is good for me.

          • Xandercom

            Don’t get your knickers in a twist young man

          • pittrek

            “The TOS fans will probably not like it, but will accept it for what it is as it’s better than nothing,”
            Yes, as a TOS fan I can agree

          • Steven Carter

            How is it not a Reboot????????

          • Locutus

            A reboot is starting something over again; however, the new show is billed as consistent with continuity and existing in the Prime universe. We shall see how consistent to existing Star Trek history the show remains. There appear to be stylistic and artistic changes as compared to the look of 60s TOS, but they are not starting over with the basic premise and rebuilding the series from scratch. That suggests a reboot. I simply do not get that impression thus far.

          • Steven Carter

            It appears to be totally inconsistent, in every way. Format, look, feel.
            The original idea might have been Prime Universe & may be what CBS is trying to make it look like to stop Real Star Trek fans like myself from loosing their shit (too late) but it appears Moonves stepped in & made it a reboot.

          • Locutus

            Too soon to say. We shall see.

        • Harry Kane

          I agree, Star Trek Evolved by advancing the century’s

    • DC Forever

      Yea, we heard you the first 20 times.

      Get some new material and/or take some Prozac.

      • Xandercom

        Prozac is great stuff!

        • The Science Fiction Oracle

          You need to double your dosage, troll.

          • Xandercom

            Unfortunately any dosage which might bring some form of enthusiasm for Star Rek Recovery would approach toxicity levels.

          • Steven Carter

            So our response to Rubbish served up as Star Trek should be get so doped out on Drugs we can’t tell its crap?
            Great solution.

          • Xandercom

            huh? are you replying to me?

          • The Science Fiction Oracle

            And you thought my posts were wack? 😉

      • Steven Carter

        We can say it 20 or 20,000 times. It’s still true.
        Your obviously Not a Star Trek fan so your not loosing anything to be mourning. the rest of us are.
        Star Trek meant something to people & its gone, why should we be happy about this.
        this show is just another dark, depressing, right wing, pro-war Sci-Fi series using Star Treks Name.

        • The Science Fiction Oracle

          Another “you people” rant?

          You are the one who is rushing to judgement and basically treating people who honestly disagree with you here as enemies.

          No offense dude, but your asinine attack posts against others here suggests to me that you have not learned much from Star Trek over the years.

          • Steven Carter

            I have learned it is worth protecting from “You People”

          • The Science Fiction Oracle

            Sure Donald, whatever you say.

  • Fiery Little One

    She may need to do a little catching up, but with her using the salute… Yeah, she’s one of us. Nice.

  • omg, i’ve been looking forward to this for a long time, but now i’m getting REALLY excited! feeling like a kid before christmas, and it’s still sooooooooo many sleeps!! 😀

  • Vger64

    I Really Really Am Soooo Excited For This Show!!!!!

  • Harry Kane

    Great Actor, I don’t hold up much hope for the series… we shall see hahahha

  • M33

    From the beginning I had a sense this series is likely going to cover the TOS era conflict with the Klingons buildup that culminated in “Errand of Mercy”.
    Given the little we already know, I think it is a reasonable guess.

  • Roger Birks

    I wonder how many years they are tied the show by contract?

    The TNG cast for instance, all had six year contracts when they started, didn’t they?

    • Fctiger

      Most shows the minimum is six years. Some may go seven. Thats why its really hard to get movie actors to do TV full time because once they commit they have to really commit. It may have changed a bit with cable shows and streaming but probably not much.

      And there were fans of the KT movies who kept suggesting the movies actors can do a TV version of it and it was no way that was ever going to happen. Even if you get some to commit to a 6 year gig, naturally the biggest stars like Pine, Saldana and Pegg wouldn’t do it because hey are in a lot of movies these days and whose going to turn down movie salaries where you make twice the money for only a third of the work as a TV show?

  • I love it that she’s a fan! I’m not necessarily a fan of “raw and gritty,” though; I like my Star Trek idealistic, and I want the Federation to be Good Guys.

  • NikolaiG

    Sonequa is great and I had been excited about this whole thing, but after what I’ve read and heard lately about Mooves and this show, I have a very very bad feeling about Discovery.

    • Locutus

      Moonves always gives me bad feelings. Don’t let him spoil the fun!

      • Star Fox

        Moonves is awesome because he wants to go in this other Darker Rawer Grittier Direction the Old Fans may not like.

        • Locutus

          I don’t have a huge problem with Trek getting darker and grittier. Roddenberry’s “vision” of a perfect crew with no flaws and no internal conflict is a little boring honestly. The series writers who were beholden to those restrictions must have hated it. I mean, folks said DS9 was too dark and gritty. Discovery would do well to take a few pages from DS9’s book, because that Trek series was ahead of its time.

          As for Moonves, he just rubs me the wrong way. He’s a money man and little more than that.

        • Steven Carter

          I’m not an “Old Fan” & I’m not the only one mourning Star Trek.
          Star Trek IS not about Raw & Gritty Current Day earth pettynes & War- why don’t you people go watch BSG or any of the other break nihilistic Crap that is supposed to be Sci-Fi & let Star Trek be Star Trek.
          Why do you negative people have a need to destroy everything good.

          • The Science Fiction Oracle

            You really could use some remedial watching of the original 79 episodes of Star Trek. Your post here gives the impression that you are not very familiar with those episodes – no offense meant.

            Besides the fact that you are basically doing a “you people” rant here to people who simply disagree with you.

            IDIC, my friend. Or, “relax, cupcake.” (-:

          • Steven Carter

            I have seen every episode multiple times on TV, VHS, DVD, Cable & Bluray.

            You People are… Confused.

          • Pedro Ferreira

            Ha, ha! The Oracle got burned!

          • The Science Fiction Oracle

            In terms of side-kicks, you are no Ed Mcmahon.

            Jar Jar Binks…yes!

          • Pedro Ferreira

            Side-kicks? Feeling as they say a bit ‘butthurt’?

          • The Science Fiction Oracle
          • Pedro Ferreira

            Again no idea who that it. You keep referencing someone I have no idea who that is along with anyone outside of America. I’m sure he’s important to you.

          • The Science Fiction Oracle

            By contrast, even though I live in the US, I still know who Don Francisco, Cristina Saralegu, Philippe Labro, Ivan Urgant and Jin Xing are.

            My knowledge of pop culture is global, as it should be for a Star Trek fan.

          • Pedro Ferreira

            Yeah but I’m not in my 50s or 60s like you dude.

          • The Science Fiction Oracle

            Your rants, behavior and content just don’t demonstrate that knowledge.

          • Steven Carter

            & just to shatter your demented idea of “Old Fans” here’s me in a JJ Era uniform! Gasp. https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/028ebad6fb604b0bdbb15a2ed9ac3d7d41f72be4d774405bcdb698edfabeb0a2.png

          • The Science Fiction Oracle

            “& just to shatter your demented idea of “Old Fans”

            What the frack are you talking about son? When did I ever say you are an old fan, or criticize “old fans.” NEVER!

            Your response was meant for Star Fox…keep me out of your little ageism rant, clown.

    • The Science Fiction Oracle

      Moonves has stepped in to save the series. It’s going to be outstanding. Thank God Fuller and company, with their “Berman 2.0” ideas and settling for mediocre production values and special effects, were sent packing.

      • Steven Carter

        What is wrong with you People???
        Moonves is the worst think to ever Happen to Star Trek.

        • The Science Fiction Oracle

          Not even close. Moonvies correctly stepped in years ago to put Enterprise out of it’s misery, ended the drain-spiraling late Berman era where process had triumphed over substance, and the gave the TV franchise the sorely needed long break it needed — setting the stage now for re-visioning the series to bring in new generation of fans.

          And when Moonvies saw Fuller and company becoming disorganized, making bad production decisions, and having sort of an incremental “Berman 2.0” approach to the tone and stories, he gave them their walking papers and stepped in to make sure this show is going to be a bold re-imagining of Star Trek with ultra-high production values…thus rejecting what I believe would have been, shall we say, a more incrementally adjusted show that (as an example) Voyager/Enterprise fans would have preferred.

          Moonvies may go down as the 21st Century version of Have Bennett…you just wait until the premiere — you’ll see!

          • Steven Carter

            Harve Bennet ruined the movies, reducing Star Treks look & Story to a Military organisation dealing with a rotating Villain of the moment seeking revenge.

          • The Science Fiction Oracle

            LOL. What a moron. Only one of his movies, WOK, had that plot, and that movie saved the Star Trek franchise from the dust-heap of history.

          • Pedro Ferreira

            “Moonvies correctly stepped in years ago to put Enterprise out of it’s misery, ended the drain-spiraling late Berman era where process had triumphed over substance, ” Ok now I know you talking BS.

          • The Science Fiction Oracle

            Enterprise was just awful, and the ratings dropped severely every single year. If I had been in Moonves shoes, I would have pulled the plug after season 3.

            Voyager was pretty mediocre, and needed a sexy addition in a skin-tight suit to stop the ratings slide. Jery Ryan saved that mediocre series.

          • Pedro Ferreira

            “Enterprise was just awful, and the ratings dropped severely every single year.” What the hell you talking about?! The show got better at the end! Why cancel it then!!!

            “Voyager was pretty mediocre, and needed a sexy addition in a skin-tight suit to stop the ratings slide. Jery Ryan saved that mediocre series.” Actually the show was better before she joined.

          • The Science Fiction Oracle

            “The show got better at the end! Why cancel it then!!!”

            FALSE — ratings dropped AGAIN in Season 4. You might have thought it improved, but the vast majority of viewers did not.

            http://www.madmind.de/wp-content/uploads/2009/05/startreknielsenrating.jpg

          • Pedro Ferreira

            Of course the ratings dropped but Season 4 was great as everyone agrees. They cancelled it at the wrong time.

          • Eskay

            Excuse me Mr. Ferreira, but if Enterprise was becoming a better show as you claim during Season 4, the why did the ratings continue to drop throughout Season 4? Makes no sense?

            You are to have me believe that the core Enterprise fans who are still sticking with the show in early Season 4, kept abandoning the show as the season went along despite the show suddenly becoming “great” Star Trek?

            That makes no sense at all. Sorry, but you are engaging in subjective, wishful thinking. I appreciate that you are a fan of the show, but you are letting your emotions get in the way of facts here. You are trying to reinvent history.

          • Pedro Ferreira

            You do realise Season 4 is seen by fans as great don’t you? I mean it’s stated all over the Internet, no reinventing history needed. As for the ratings that’s obvious as well. As with any TV show in a similar position by the time it got good people weren’t watching. The same thing happened with Classic Doctor Who. The ratings have nothing to do with the quality of the show, again this is all common sense.

          • The Science Fiction Oracle

            Pedro, seriously dude, lay of the crack pipe. 🙂

            The point the person above was making completely counters your claim that fans though it was great. If Season 4 had started off with all of a sudden “great Trek” episodes, then, at the very least, the rating statistics should have shown a stabilizing effect — a straight line on the graph. Instead, despite your claim that the show vastly improved, over the course of Season 4, week after week, more fans checked out and stopped watching.

            In fact, if the series had truly improved significantly at the front of Season 4, one would logically expect that the “word will get around” with Trek fandom that the series was finally getting decent, and they we would expect to see a ratings improvement across the Season, which would then have give CBS and Moonves pause to consider keeping the series going. Hell, Moonves had already been extremely generous in letting them do Season 4; personally, I would have cancelled the series after Season 3.

            By the start of Season 4, given the crappy first three seasons, one can make a credible assumption that the vast majority of people who are still tuning in to watch the show were Star Trek fans (i.e. the general public had already checked out). Given this, and noticing that the ratings continue to slides on a downward curve on that ratings graph nearly every week of Season 4 — resulting in by the far the shittiest ratings in Star Trek history by the end of Season 4 — that Star Trek fans were abandoning Enterprise in droves.

            So as with any show, there is always going to be a vocal small minority of fans who go against the grain, and don’t like the conclusion of the majority. Obviously, your are part of this group, and your are very insistent that the show was much better than the majority of fans think it was. I get this, and I feel your pain. But stats are stats — people continued to check out of that supposedly great 4th season.

            So, in the end, most fans thought Season 4 of Enterprise was still a pretty lackluster effort,and not worth sticking with, even though they knew the series was on the cancellation block. It’s like if you eat Spam for three years in prison, but then in the 4th year the prison kitchen starts putting some melted Velveeta on top of the Spam, you realize that that you are still eating trash.

          • Pedro Ferreira

            “If Season 4 had started off with all of a sudden “great Trek” episodes, then, at the very least, the rating statistics should have shown a stabilizing effect” You seriously don’t understand how TV works eh? And you call yourself a Star Trek fan?

            “if the series had truly improved significantly at the front of Season 4, one would logically expect that the “word will get around” with Trek fandom that the series was finally getting decent,” Are you that naive? Regardless of how well a TV becomes if lots of people have stopped watching no one is going to tune in. Plus even I’m aware Enterprise by that point was shown in the ‘death slot’.

            “that Star Trek fans were abandoning Enterprise in droves.” And because of the earlier seasons.

            “So as with any show, there is always going to be a vocal small minority of fans who go against the grain, and don’t like the conclusion of the majority. ” It’s not a minority, it’s a majority. Seriously have you been living under a rock or something?! EVERYBODY READ EVERYBODY knows Season 4 was the best. Manny Coto was terrific in charge of the show.

            “you don’t get to reinvent history in your favor…” I despise people like you because you’re the one trying to reinvent history. I was there at the time and EVERYBODY loved Season 4! There’s actual proof in articles and whatever from the time, the consensus was Enterprise was great when the plug was pulled. Now obviously someone who actually watched the show would know this. Something tells me you never watched Season 4 of Enterprise if you’re saying crap about revisionism.

            “you realize that that you are still eating trash food, and you hate that food more and more as time passes by.” Oh shut up, you’re the one spamming this forum!

          • Eskay

            Mr. Ferreia, with all due respect, your response here is intellectually bankrupt. SF Chronicle laid out stats, facts and logic, and even acknowledged where he/she was making assumptions. That was a thoughtfully reasoned out post of his/hers, whether your agree with it or not.

            “Oh shut up” is all you can say in response to his detailed information, in which he/she obviously spent a lot of time on to make this case? I’m disappointed, as I thought we were all having a serious discussion here? My mistake!

            Your cut and paste of his entire post with your “oh shut up” at the end has to be one of the most juvenile retorts that I have ever seen on a fan site. And it comes across like you are throwing in the towel.

          • Pedro Ferreira

            “your response here is intellectually bankrupt.” Seriously WTF?! If you’re going to call me stupid CALL ME STUPID, don’t use pretentious language like ‘intellectually bankrupt’, you sound like a complete idiot when you say stuff like that!

            “That was a thoughtfully reasoned out post of his/hers, whether your agree with it or not.” Of course the ratings don’t lie but that doesn’t mean the show was crap at the end. Again take the Doctor Who example. Should I think Season 25 and 26 was crap just because no one was watching at that point? I mean some common sense is required here guys.

            “I’m disappointed, as I thought we were all having a serious discussion here? ” I am making a serious discussion here, unfortunately when I have to put up with terms like ‘intellectually bankrupt’ how can I not make fun of you guys?

            “And it comes across like you are throwing in the towel.” Sorry to disappoint but you’re wrong. Throwing in would be me allowing your rubbish revisionist history to take place. I was there in 2005, I was watching the show along with the fans and the critics and everyone agreed Manny Coto made the show good. You can whine as much as you like but THAT is fact!

          • The Science Fiction Oracle

            Ha, ha! Pedro Ferreira got burned!

          • Pedro Ferreira

            Erm that doesn’t actually make sense.

          • The Science Fiction Oracle

            Karma’s a bitch, dude.

          • Pedro Ferreira

            So you’re now making less sense than before. Cool.

          • The Science Fiction Oracle

            Ah, SO NOW, ALL OF A SUDDEN, you care about logic and sense? LOL Where was that during this entire discussion, clown?

            Eat your crow like a man. And trying bringing your A game next time, instead of just being a sidekick to others who can have more facts and information that can support more meaty discussions here.

            Your continual whining about “trust me the show was great” is simply not compelling.

            bye……

          • Eskay

            Oracle,

            Thank you so much! I wasn’t going to dignify Mr. Ferreira making fun of the way I write (excuse me for having a PhD in English!) with a response, but I think you pretty much covered how I feel about his shenanigans here.

            Besides, now I know what troll road kill looks like; nice job!

            Cheers! Eskay

          • Pedro Ferreira

            Erm I wasn’t making fun of the way you write, I was criticising the choice of words such as ‘intellectually bankrupt’.

          • Pedro Ferreira

            “SO NOW, ALL OF A SUDDEN, you care about logic and sense? LOL Where was that during this entire discussion?” You got your argument dismissed by someone and now you can’t accept it. Move on.

            “Your continual subjective whining about “trust me the show was great” is simply not compelling.” I never said that. You don’t have to trust me, the proof is there. Not my fault you never watched the show or read the reviews at the time. Are you sure you’re a Star Trek fan?

            “Nor are your asinine and juvenile little tirades against others who bring actual reasoning and facts to the table.” I see no reasoning here.

            “Wah Wah, ‘intellectual bankruptcy’ is too complex a term for me, mommy.” SERIOUSLY??? You are behaving like a 13 year old moron.” At your age I wasn’t expecting to meet a guy in his 50s or 60s who is a moron however.

            “instead of just being a sidekick to others who have more facts and information that can support more meaty discussions here.” Whine whine whine, I’m the Oracle, I see everything and no one can disagree with me because I spam the posts, whine whine whine…

            “There are few things more annoying and inept on the internet than a shitty wing-man who thinks he’s clever and amusing.” Now see you’ve clearly shown you don’t know what the hell you’re talking about. Well done now shut up.

          • DC Forever

            This is a Star Trek site, which means that we have a lot of smart people participating. Criticizing people because they have a bigger vocabulary than you just makes you seem like a punk kid.

          • Pedro Ferreira

            “which means that we have a lot of smart people participating.” Where? Where are they? I see some idiots replying to me, do you mean those?

            “Criticizing people because they have a bigger vocabulary than you just makes you seem like a punk kid.” Your argument sir is of the lowbrow deficient kind. See I make myself like smart by sounding pretentious as well!!!

            “Perhaps you might find find more kindred spirits who are proud of their trailer park vocabulary over at the Brietbart news site? ;-)” Erm if you like hanging around with Milo be my guest. Is that a requirement for DC fans?

          • DC Forever

            “I was there” as well, and Season 4 was still bad. I watched the entire four seasons back then on TV because I am a die hard fan. But those four seasons were all pretty hard to watch, and most of my friends who “were there” agree with me.

            I actually think Season 3 was the best season. An interestingly, as the ratings graph shows, you can see that the ratings did stabilize during Season 3. Then, with Coto in full control in Season 4, the ratings start nosediving again, which completely counters your claim?

          • Pedro Ferreira

            “I watched the entire four seasons back then on TV because I am a die hard fan.” Your opinion but not the majority.

            “Then, with Coto in full control in Season 4, the ratings start nosediving again, which completely counters your claim?” But by all critic accounts as well as the actual fans Season 4 was the best so am I going to listen to everything they said at the time or some DC fan whose deiced today to revise historical opinion. Kind of a no brainer really. You’ll have to do better than that.

          • The Science Fiction Oracle

            Exactly!

          • pittrek

            Not everybody Pedro. For example I personally think that the 3rd season was the best, and the 4th season the worst.

          • Pedro Ferreira

            Ok but the majority think that Season 4 was the best especially with the episodes they were coming out with.

  • Fctiger

    Wow thats interesting. This whole time a lot of us assumed she left TWD for Star Trek when its been the opposite. In that case thats great timing! To be killed off a show but then immediately get to play not just a lead role but a lead role in a high profile franchise must feel amazing.

    I think she’s going to be great. And loved how she snuck in the Vulcan salute on Talking Dead. This girl is already part of the franchise and proud of it!

  • Michael McLean

    I don’t like the fact that they used a male name for a female character, not very imaginative for trek not logical as spock would say. Should have stuck with the first choice. But as I see it writers today in Hollywood are on the pipe. My name is Michael and it is totally a male name, look it up duh??

    • pittrek

      Yeah, like what’s wrong with e.g. Michelle? It’s a nice name. It’s not a good sign when every time I will hear the lead character’s name the only thing I will think about will be “wow, what a strange name”

      • Lauren Burton

        I thought this as well, it really is an odd decision, I don’t think I’ve ever met a woman who has the name Michael. It now makes me wonder whether she’ll play a trans character?

        • pittrek

          I don’t think so. They reported they will have a gay character, so I’m pretty sure they would also tell us if they had a trans character

    • DamienL

      Are you offended they stole your “male sounding name” and gave it to a lowly woman character? How dare they give a female the honour of a male name!

      Get over it — many names are interchangeable between genders.

    • The Science Fiction Oracle

      If your rather asinine post here is representative of males named “Michael,” then maybe the name “Michael” should be moved over to the female side of nomenclature assignments. Perhaps women would do the name more justice?

    • Robinette Broadhead

      I do know a woman named Michael. It’s rare but it is sometimes used.

      • The Science Fiction Oracle

        I know a Heechee female named Michael as well.

  • Zarm

    Ah, yes. Based on Gene Roddenberry’s famous ‘raw and gritty vision of the future.’

    • pittrek

      That’s the part which worries me too.

      • Zarm

        Well, it is nice to know I’m not the only one. (Sometimes it seems like it!) I think that it just feels like the franchise in this millennium has (mostly, with some exceptions) lost sight of what Star Trek is about. I don’t think it’s ‘about’ anything anymore; it’s just seen as a sci-fi setting to tell action stories in. And that would be a real shame, because it loses the vision that made Star Trek unique (and popular)- a vision of optimism… in a time when we’ve never needed it more.

        • Pedro Ferreira

          Thank you!

    • jstimson

      Well, we heard the same about DS9 before it came out as well. And although technically it was more “raw and gritty” than TNG, it was still recognizably Star Trek and pushed the right philosophies. Fingers crossed that DSC doesn’t change so much that it becomes Trek in name only.

    • The Science Fiction Oracle

      You are deliberately misrepresenting the quote. Her quote clearly said the stories are going to be bigger, rawer and grittier. There was nothing whatsoever in her quote that suggested that the Star Trek future depicted in this series was going to depart from Gene’s vision.

      It’s disappointing to see Trek fans creating “alternative facts” here. This is the last place I would expect to see that sort of truth twisting.

      • Zarm

        Wow. That’s entirely uncalled for. One sardonic comment about the contradiction of direction for the franchise from the tone it was based on, and I am creating ‘alternative facts’? I’m not claiming *any* facts here, just making a snide remark.

        Personally, I don’t see how ‘rawer and grittier’ stories can coexist with Start Trek’s optimistic future, and I also haven’t seen anything in the franchise since late Voyager or so in which Star Trek has tried to depict an optimistic future… but that is just my opinion. I’m not putting words in anyone’s mouth or making a declaration of what Discovery will be. Just voicing my concern for the stated direction.

        • The Science Fiction Oracle

          You twisted the meaning of the quote…fact!

          “Personally, I don’t see how ‘rawer and grittier’ stories can coexist with Start Trek’s optimistic future,”

          That’s absolutely ridiculous. DId you ever catch Deep Space 9, or about one-third of the TOS episodes?

          My sardonic response to this would be: WTF? Seriously?

        • Pedro Ferreira

          Don’t listen to this guy. Anyone who gives themselves a pretentious handle like that deserves not to be taken seriously.

          • Zarm

            Are you kidding? I’m just jealous I didn’t think of the name first! 😉 Thank you, that’s kind of you to say.

  • SpaceCadet

    Man, this message board is so acrimonious! Lol. The same people pop up in every post related to DSC and actively root for it to fail before it’s even aired, kind of like the TOS fans wanted TNG to fail before even giving it a chance. Humanity sure is stuck in a feedback loop! :op

    • Xandercom

      If someone told you to paint your house pink with yellow spots on the basis that you should give it a chance, would you?

      • SpaceCadet

        That’s a poor analogy. You’re comparing something that I already know I won’t like with something I wouldn’t be able to give an opinion on because I haven’t seen the final product yet. Many others as well as myself have repeatedly stated as such. That’s why IMHO it’s foolish to judge something before you’ve even had a chance to review it. Not such a hard concept to understand.

        • Xandercom

          Again, shows how uninformed you are as to the wider attitude to Discovery.
          You’ve got more chance of asking people to have their house painted pink and yellow than watch a TOS prequel.

          • SpaceCadet

            Give it a rest. You’ll be watching it like everyone else.

          • Xandercom

            It’s included in my Netflix subscription so I’ll give the pilot a go, but to say I have any level of excitement or desire to see what we’ve all been reading about these past 10 months would be a complete fabrication.
            It’s going to be a car crash, all that remains to be seen is how bad it really is.

          • SpaceCadet

            Even if it’s in your subscription you have to physically make the selection to watch the show, so that actually means you have some desire to watch it even if you claim otherwise. And I don’t care that a vocal minority is complaining about a series that hasn’t even aired yet. TOS fans used to bitch and moan just like you’re doing now before TNG ever aired and even after and then we all know TNG became a mainstream phenomenon. You remind of those same TOS fans. Kind of ironic.

          • Xandercom

            As I have already said, it’s included in my subscription and I will probably watch the pilot, but if its as bad as expected I shan’t taint my viewing of other series by watching an atrocity unfold.

          • SpaceCadet

            No one, including Netflix, is forcing you to watch it! You either make the selection to view it or not. And I’m sure making a decision about the whole series to follow after viewing the first epsiode is very wise, i.e. “Encounter at Farpoint”.

          • Xandercom

            Don’t be so ludicrous. TNG had more than double the screen time for the actors to get in to their characters, and this was back in the day when ridiculous million dollar (or equivalent) budgets per episode were not the main focus, ie it was story driven performances, not production driven stories.

          • SpaceCadet

            That’s inaccurate and not a very good argument either. Actually, TNG had a budget per episode that was over a million dollars. Therefore, is that still so “ridiculous” to you? Story was important, but so was high quality production values. And many series today have shorter episode counts per season like 8-13, and yet from the get-go they have been huge critical and ratings successes. These productions know how important it is to plan ahead with the whole season arc and have strong performances and actors that will create an immediate positive impression. So once again, all of your negativity about something you’ve never even seen air yet is incredibly premature and naive.

          • Xandercom

            I couldn’t disagree more.