As another week comes to a close, we’ve another collection of Trek news updates from around the galaxy – and around the world!

Star Trek: Discovery producer Alex Kurtzman spent some time talking to Collider’s Adam Chitwood about his new film The Mummy this week, and naturally the conversation dipped into Discovery, currently in mid-Episode 5 production up in Toronto.

In addition to some comments on former showrunner Bryan Fuller’s departure, he also spoke about the diversity of the show’s writers room and the desire for some more famous Trek fans to find a way to beam aboard the new series:

All I’m gonna say now is that you’re talking about a show that’s being written by a roomful of fans who all have very different relationships to Trek, and I think that’s a healthy thing and it’s a good thing. They love different aspects of Trek. We’re really excited with how the scripts are going; the scripts are going great.

So many actors are fans. We literally got a list of them that were like, ‘Here are people who said they want to be on Star Trek’. It was awesome… To just be in an episode or come in or out.

You can check out more of Kurtzman’s comments at Collider.

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Modiphius Entertainment, the publisher of the forthcoming Star Trek Adventures role-playing game that we’ve been talking about for the last several months, has finally launched preorders for a number of products related to the game this week!

That means we can now attach a price tag to that Borg Cube collectors edition that TrekCore reported on last week. For the entire deluxe Cube set — which includes miniature figures, themed dice, rulebooks, and more — the collection will run you $503. For there’s also a “Drone Bundle” version of the Cube set, with just the basic gameplay materials, for $319.

For those looking to spend a bit less, the preorder also lists each of the individual products. The core rulebook, listed at $58.99 or $77.99 for a special edition printing, ships in August, around the time of Gen Con, the tabletop gaming industry’s premier convention. But those who preorder the book may receive a PDF version sooner than that.

The preorder also includes a book of adventure scenarios, a gamemaster’s screen, miniatures and a set of deck tiles for miniatures combat.

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The Operation Enterprise roller coaster at Movie Park Germany has opened to the public! We shared with you some early-visitor video reviews last week, but now Movie Park Germany has officially released their own promotional media from the park.


 
If you make it to Germany, be sure to check out this wild ride – Star Trek: TNG star Marina Sirtis will be there to launch the ride on June 14.
 

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Finally, check out this great fan build of the new Star Trek: Discovery insignia badges!

Come back often for more Star Trek news here at TrekCore!

  • Cabo 5150

    LOVE the insignia badges!

    • Snap

      Yeah, the insignia badges really are sweet and I certainly appreciate the talent which went in to making the replicas. The only part which seems like it may not actually fit are the rank pips. Even though we didn’t get the best look at them in the trailer, the impression I got was that they were recessed into the insignia, not actual pips.

      • Cabo 5150

        I think it’s a lock a license will be granted for a given manufacturer to produce a badge replica. Sign me up!

        I would actually prefer recessed pips personally – a slightly more “polished” look perhaps.

  • DC Forever

    If anyone was believing a certain character who posted several weeks back that Discovery was in trouble, that Kurtzman had bailed, and that they were taking a long break to completely retool the series, this news from Kurtzman that ep 5 is in the bag completely puts that made up nonsense to rest.

    Can’t wait for this fall !!!

    • Cabo 5150

      Man, it can’t come soon enough!

    • The Science Fiction Oracle

      Yea, no more fake news updates from imaginary sources…back to discussing Star Trek like adults.

      Awesome to hear that they are nearly at the halfway point of completing season 1.

      • M33

        You mean from “anonymous sources”?
        Or really one in the same?

        • robjoh

          LOL! Yeah,and all that usual hate on the new movies. Sure does sound like a certain other poster from a while back. lol!
          Really looking forward to some new Trek,don’t care what timeline it is set in,it looks great!

          • The Science Fiction Oracle

            Well said!!!

  • TIG1701

    Wow it looks like they went all out for the Germany roller coaster’s queue. I wasn’t too keen on the ride itself but the actual line looks really cool. And you can be on the bridge of Enterprise D! I think people will pay just to be able to do that alone. Anyone who been to the old Vegas attraction and got to be on that bridge was almost Mecca for any fan.

    Germans love their Star Trek!

    • Charles Baxter

      Pretty much although I must admit the Borg ride had a very well designed space station.

  • Fiery Little One

    Okay, I’m impressed by what I’m seeing for that German ride. They look like they really pulled out all the stops here.

    • Charles Baxter

      Looks like the STE that was in Vegas, just built around a roller coaster

      • Fiery Little One

        I’ll take your word for it. I never got the chance to see that.

        • TUP

          STE was incredible. I got to see it the final year and wish I had done so sooner. I’d have gone back every year for it.

          • Fiery Little One

            Yeah… My first time in Vegas? 6 months after it closed… Story of my life.

  • Pedro Ferreira

    “is that you’re talking about a show that’s being written by a roomful of fans who all have very different relationships to Trek, and I think that’s a healthy thing and it’s a good thing.” So many fans yet the whole thing as presented makes no sense at all.

    • Tone

      Too many people, with too many different agendas.

      • Pedro Ferreira

        It does seem like a push/pull thing is going on here. Too many cooks.

        • TUP

          What about that statement makes you think that? You’re response is completely a “half empty” perspective.

          • Pedro Ferreira

            Considering how the fans are totally confused as to what universe it’s supposed to be set in it does feel disorganised.

          • TUP

            If fans don’t know what universe it’s in that’s their own problem. They’ve clearly stated it’s Prime

          • Pedro Ferreira

            Yet it looks nothing like Prime as per my previous post.

          • TUP

            Incorrect. It looks like a reasonable extrapolation from Enterprise and the Kelvin.

          • Pedro Ferreira

            I think you need glasses. It look nothing like the Prime universe. That’s where all the confusion is.

          • TUP

            You need reading comprehension lessons. They have said it’s prime. Therefore it’s prime.

            And their choice was to evolve from enterprise and Kelvin or maintain the look of tos. Which makes more sense?

            This way yes TOS looks out of place. Which is reasonable since it was the 60’s. Why make a decision that renders everything else odd?

            In our limited viewing it very reasonably flows from enterprise and Kelvin.

            How do you explain the Kelvin if you insist on maintaining TOS as the visual standard?

          • Pedro Ferreira

            I think you’re the one who needs reading comprehension lessons. If pretty much every single reaction to the trailer not including news articles was nobody knew when it was set I think it’s fair to assume the universe presented to us makes no sense whatsoever. You can make crap excuses as much as you like but the fact is pretty much everyone is confused by the trailer. It looks, sounds and acts like the Kelvin universe regardless of whoever says it’s set in the Prime universe. If they’re aim was for the Prime universe they should just start again.

          • TUP

            Reading is your friend.

            DSC Producers: “Its the prime universe”
            Pedro: “I dont believe them.”

            It doesnt matter what you or anyone else thinks. You’re not arguing the look the of the show (of which we’ve only seen a few small shots). You’re saying they need to clarify or, more accurately, need to just admit its the KT. It’s not. They’ve already said that.

            The look of the show has nothing to do with the creative decision as to which universe it takes place in.

            If you want to debate the look of the show, that’s fine. But to try and claim they are being confusing or misleading is ludicrous. They have said plainly that its the Prime Universe.

            In regards to the look, you’d lose that debate too. It looks like a reasonable evolution from Enterprise and Kelvin. You do realise that the opening of Trek 09 took place in the Prime Universe, right?

          • Pedro Ferreira

            “It looks like a reasonable evolution from Enterprise and Kelvin. You do realise that the opening of Trek 09 took place in the Prime Universe, right?” Erm you do realise if it’s evolving from the Kelvin timeline that means it’s set in that universe? Since most people are totally confused by these decisions and aren’t behaving like lemmings I think we have a right to question what the hell they’re doing eh?

          • TUP

            LOL! So you dont understand that the USS Kelvin took place in the Prime Timeline?

            The KT universe began when Nero came through. The Kelvin existed BEFORE Nero arrived. Had Nero not arrived, the kelvin goes on its merry way. And the limited scenes we’ve seen of Discovery look like a reasonable evolution for Kelvin.

            Do you understand now?

          • Pedro Ferreira

            No I don’t because it’s supposed to be set in the Prime Universe but looks like a reboot movie!!! Do you understand now?

          • TUP

            No, stop being evasive.

            Do you understand that the USS kelvin from Star Trek 09 was in the PRIME Universe? And therefore the look and tech shown is CANON Prime Universe?

            And therefore, if you create a show that takes place 20 years later and it looks like it was made in the 60’s, it simply screws canon a lot more than what you’re angry about.

            Please, write this statement so we know you accept it: “The USS Kelvin was PRIME Universe”

          • Pedro Ferreira

            It doesn’t matter! Two separate universes. One has crappy lens flare and Star Wars action, one doesn’t. The series is supposed to be set in the latter that’s why it’s a big deal.

          • DC Forever

            Where is the trailer is the Star Wars action?

            That is complete bull that you just made up.

          • Pedro Ferreira

            Same style as the reboot movies which had Star Wars action.

          • DC Forever

            You are confusing ships and space scenes with stories. We have no info on the quality of the stories, so this dumbass Star Wars action comment of yours is basically trolling behavior.

          • Pedro Ferreira

            What are you talking about?! I’m talking about the reboot style Abrahams is so keen on and you’re talking about ships and space scenes. YOU’RE the troll if anything.

          • DC Forever

            With your logic, I can imagine you must loathe TMP then, since it looks like a huge departure from TOS, yet it took place only 3.5 years in canon time after TOS.

            If this were 1979 with the Internet in place, you’d be calling for Rodenbery to be fired because Trek looks more like 2001 and Space 1999 than TOS.

          • Pedro Ferreira

            “I can imagine you must loathe TMP then, since it looks like a huge departure from TOS, yet it took place only 3.5 years in canon time after TOS.” Except we didn’t at that point have reboots, remakes and lens flare plus it was explained over the course of the show.

          • DC Forever

            Nope. TMP Trek universe looked radically different than TOS Prime universe. It’s not debatable and no, it wasn’t explained away successfully.

          • Pedro Ferreira

            Yeah I know this and yes it was explained away successfully.

          • DC Forever

            No. I saw TMP 14 times in its theatrical release. No such explanation in the movie.

          • Pedro Ferreira

            You must have missed Enterprise then where it was resolved?

          • DC Forever

            False. As TUP mentions below, it looks like a decent hybrid of Enterprise and Kelvin. That’s fine for this series in terms of the look.

            By comparison, Enterprise looked nothing like I thought TOS prequel technology should have looked like. Enterprise would be a better fit for your “makes no sense” commentary.

          • Pedro Ferreira

            Except it looks more like the Kelvin timeline which begs the question why don’t they just come out and say it’s based in that universe instead of confusing everybody.

          • TUP

            Because, for the fourth time, they said it takes place in the prime. Period. End of discussion.

            If you can’t accept what they are saying that’s not their problem. It’s yours.

          • DC Forever

            Yea, exactly. Pedro is in denial of the facts, pure and simple.

          • Pedro Ferreira

            Facts are an interesting thing. It seems whoever is working on this show has trouble with them. I guess you do as well if you blindly follow whatever they say. You guys are in denial, I’m being realistic, FACT!

          • DC Forever

            The reality is that none of us have enough facts to assess the quality of this show yet, positive or negative.

          • Pedro Ferreira

            Then they put out a rubbish trailer which contains stuff that doesn’t bode well to the series.

          • DC Forever

            That’s exactly my point – there is not enough information in the trailer to make a judgement call on whether this is going to be good, great or crap.

          • Pedro Ferreira

            It doesn’t exactly raise hope if the main reaction so far has been confusion eh?

          • Pedro Ferreira

            It’s their problem if I’m looking at a TV show set in the Kelvin universe and not the Prime one aren’t I?! Who cares what they say, the proof is on screen and that is not the Prime universe!!!

          • TUP

            No, the problem is yours if you want to ignore or deny the facts which are not in question.

            If you really think about the reasons for updating the look, it makes a lot of sense. And I say that being someone who really really demands respect for canon.

            But here’s the thing, if they made it look like TOS, not only is that a really weird and potentially terrible business decision, but it further canonizes the visual look of TOS as not just being a 60’s design limitation scenario but that the Federation evidently went BACKWARDS in their tech design.

            And even worse, looking at TOS compared to Enterprise and Kelvin, its not that they just went back (TOS isnt a reasonable look at 2100 tech), its that it really makes no sense. Because it was the 1960’s.

            So the decision is, make it look like TOS to appease some of the minority audience who closes their eyes, plugs their ears and stomps their feet and by doing so, you render Enteprrise & Kelvin as senseless outliers that dont fit.

            Or, you acknowledge that TOS took place in the friggen 1960’s! And you look at the history of Trek from Enterprise to Nem and you create a reasonable technological look at the TOS era.

            My only caveat is that should the Enterprise (or sister ship) eventually appear, they should respect (but update) the look.

            Again, you do realise Kelvin was Prime Universe right?

          • Pedro Ferreira

            “If you really think about the reasons for updating the look, it makes a lot of sense. And I say that being someone who really really demands respect for canon.” The you obviously are as committed to canon as you think you are isn’t it?

            “Again, you do realise Kelvin was Prime Universe right?” The Kelvin universe belongs to the reboot movies, the Prime Universe is everything before that. What’s so difficult to understand? Discovery shouldn’t look like the Kelvin universe but it is regardless of what confused BS they say.

          • TUP

            Ummmmm you’re failing to understand a very significant point here. Im not trying to be mean, but you really are not comprehending this.

            You want to argue “Universes” well, you have to accept as canon that the USS kelvin from Star Trek 09 was PRIME Universe. The technology and look shown on that ship is CANON to the Prime Universe.

            If you dont have to like it. But it is a fact. Just like, you dont have to like the look of Discovery but its a fact that it’s Prime Universe. You can wish it werent so. You can stomp your feet and tweet the producers. But it doesnt change the FACTS.

          • Pedro Ferreira

            “You want to argue “Universes” well, you have to accept as canon that the USS kelvin from Star Trek 09 was PRIME Universe. The technology and look shown on that ship is CANON to the Prime Universe.” And? Yeah I know this but they’re both separate universes now.

            “If you dont have to like it. But it is a fact. Just like, you dont have to like the look of Discovery but its a fact that it’s Prime Universe. You can wish it werent so. You can stomp your feet and tweet the producers. But it doesnt change the FACTS.” Definitely but you know what? If enough people are like me the new series isn’t going to get a good reception and so far people aren’t exactly ecstatic about the series.

          • TUP

            No, they are not separate universes. The UUS kelvin exists in the PRIME Universe. When Nero arrived, the Kelvin was 5 minutes beforehand did not disappear from the Prime Universe and the technology of the PRIME Universe did not suddenly revert to a 1960’s inspired level.

            Now that you acknowledge the FACTS, can you stop with the angry stomping of feet. If you want to discuss the look of the show, do it but stop with the silly hyperbole about the producers lying about the Universe etc.

            And yes, people are happy about the series. Its human nature to see the opinions that agree with you or support your position. But you’re missing the rest. A lot of excitement for this series, especially by some of the people that matter the most – the ones with the money since CBS and Netflix extended the season and by many accounts, increased the budget.

          • Pedro Ferreira

            “No, they are not separate universes.” Yes they are! The reboot movies are not set in the Prime Universe hence two separate universes.

            “If you want to discuss the look of the show, do it but stop with the silly hyperbole about the producers lying about the Universe etc.” There’s a difference between supporting something and acknowledging how something doesn’t make sense. Are you sure you’re not part of the Discovery team?

            “And yes, people are happy about the series.” After watching the trailer I didn’t see anyone that was excited by the new series.

            “A lot of excitement for this series, especially by some of the people that matter the most – the ones with the money since CBS and Netflix extended the season and by many accounts, increased the budget.” Good luck trying to get people to pay for the CBS channel because most aren’t and why should they?

          • TUP

            Pedro, stop with your nonsense. The USS Kelvin in Trek 09 takes place in the PRIME Universe. You said you understood that. Do you?

            When Star Trek 09 started, you were watching PRIME Universe. The same universe with OUR Kirk & Spock and TOS and TNG and Enterprise.

            It only became the kelvin Universe when Nero appeared. But that did not retroactively change the USS Kelvin.

            Do you understand?

          • Pedro Ferreira

            Of course but the reboot movies take place in an alternate universe called…wait for it…the Kelvin Universe!

          • TUP

            No, Predro. Are you a young child (serious question). The first few minutes of Star Trek 09 did NOT take place in the kelvin Universe. It was PRIME Universe.

            Do you understand that?

          • Pedro Ferreira

            “No, Predro. Are you a young child (serious question).” I wish I was, then I be on the same mental maturity level as you.

            “The first few minutes of Star Trek 09 did NOT take place in the kelvin Universe. It was PRIME Universe.

            Do you understand that?” Yes and?

          • TUP

            My question about your age was not to insult your intelligence however your reply has certainly exposed your character and maturity. My point was, you are failing to comprehend a very simple thing.

            You claimed that Discovery being a reasonable evolution from Kelvin made no sense because Kelvin took place in a different Universe. Even after acknowledging that it did not, you still made the point that it WAS a different Universe.

            Its perfectly within canon for Discovery to resemble the look, feel, tone of the USS Kelvin as seen in Star Trek 2009 because the USS Kelvin as seen in Star Trek 2009 was the PRIME Universe.

            Get it?

          • Pedro Ferreira

            “My question about your age was not to insult your intelligence” cough bulls**t! cough. Sorry bad cough. Maybe you shouldn’t be asking people’s age? Don’t be THAT idiot. Nobody likes THAT idiot.

            “You claimed that Discovery being a reasonable evolution from Kelvin made no sense because Kelvin took place in a different Universe. Even after acknowledging that it did not, you still made the point that it WAS a different Universe.” I didn’t say this. I think you’re confusing yourself here.

            “Its perfectly within canon for Discovery to resemble the look, feel, tone of the USS Kelvin as seen in Star Trek 2009 because the USS Kelvin as seen in Star Trek 2009 was the PRIME Universe.” You never heard of parallel universes before?

          • TUP

            Actually I didnt want to be overly critical of you if you were very young. Now I know you’re just very stupid. Oh well.

            Yes you did say that.

            What does parallel universes have to do with this? the USS Kelvin in 2009 was the same PRIME Universe. I realize you’re doing back flips to try and support your argument now that we’ve pointed out how wrong it is. Just admit that what we have seen from DSC fits what we saw from the kelvin. Be man enough to do that please.

          • Pedro Ferreira

            “Actually I didnt want to be overly critical of you if you were very young. Now I know you’re just very stupid. Oh well.” https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ

          • TUP

            Ummm, who are these “most” that wont pay for CBS All Access? They already have 2 million subs and The Good Fight was a successful show there. Their expectations for subscriber base on the back of Star Trek is very reasonable.

            People will pay. A lot of people pay for Netflix and Hulu and Amazon etc. Im sorry if you are one of those people that doesnt like streaming technology or think CBSAA is unreasonable because you dont already get it.

          • Pedro Ferreira

            “People will pay. A lot of people pay for Netflix and Hulu and Amazon etc. Im sorry if you are one of those people that doesnt like streaming technology or think CBSAA is unreasonable because you dont already get it.” We’ll see because as of now there isn’t really any excitement from fans, just confusion and the response so far is that people aren’t willing to pay for something that looks this bad.

          • DC Forever

            You just admitted that you have predetermined that you are going to hate this series.

            That is pretty lame given we hardly have any conclusive info on the quality of the stories.

            You act as if whining about “the Kelvin look” is some major point that proves this will suck – that is just weak minded and makes no sense.

          • Pedro Ferreira

            “You act as if whining about “the Kelvin look” is some major point that proves this will suck – that is just weak minded and makes no sense.” It’s weak minded to just accept any old rubbish CBS throw your way, glad you’re not like that. Oh wait…

          • DC Forever

            You just reaffirmed it again – you are out for hate on this and will not give it a chance.

            Kind of ironic for you to have that opinion given that sort of negativity by a sizable group of Trek fans did in your beloved Enterprise in the same way.

          • Pedro Ferreira

            “you are out for hate on this and will not give it a chance.” What reasons have I been given that it’s going to be at least good?

            “did in your beloved Enterprise in the same way.” My beloved Enterprise? Erm, ok…

          • DC Forever

            So you are not the Pedro who ALWAYS defends Enterprise here when others say it’s not very good?

            Are there two Pedro’s who post here then???

          • DC Forever

            Yea, and that’s also why Enterprise itself didn’t really look credible in terms of what an TOS lead in should have looked like if they had really tried to make that canon match.

          • TUP

            Yes, I agree. I was a bit annoyed about some thing with Enterprise (mostly the awful story telling). But they got a lot of things right. You cannot limit yourself by the technology of the 1960’s. You simply cant.

            But Enterprise did a good job at making the tech a reasonable evolution from TODAY.

            Kelvin was a reasonable evolution from Enterprise. And our limited look at Discovery shows a reasonable evolution from both of them.

            The fact TOS, in the big picture, looks out of place is because of the limitations of the 1960’s. Why create a scenario where EVERYTHING looks out of place when you can continue down a path that only renders the ONE reasonable thing as out of place?

            The angry minority here has not given this any thought.

          • Pedro Ferreira

            “The fact TOS, in the big picture, looks out of place is because of the limitations of the 1960’s. Why create a scenario where EVERYTHING looks out of place when you can continue down a path that only renders the ONE reasonable thing as out of place?” If they want an evolution of Enterprise they should upgrade but remain faithful to that look, not follow the reboot movies which have nothing to do with the Prime Universe.

          • TUP

            They are not following the reboot movies. CBS doesnt own rights to the reboot movies.

            Enterprise takes place, what, 100 years before Discovery, so you’re saying it should look like Enterprise and not a reasonable evolution of Enterprise + 100 years?

            Any resemblance to Kelvin is a bonus since that was Paramount, not CBS. But it was clear JJ and his people had Enterprise/TOS in mind when they designed the Kelvin and the uniforms as they certainly fit a period between Enterprise and TOS.

            So Discovery continuing that trend makes sense.

          • Pedro Ferreira

            “They are not following the reboot movies.” But for all intents and purposes they LOOK like the reboot movies.

            “So Discovery continuing that trend makes sense.” No because I’m not expecting to see bad lighting, desaturated colours and Klingons who look like reboot movie Klingons.

          • TUP

            Yes, they do resemble the JJ films in some respects. That does not mean they are the same thing. It’s Star Trek. All Star Trek has similarities.

            Quinto looks a bit like Nimoy. But they arent the same person.

          • Pedro Ferreira

            “That does not mean they are the same thing. It’s Star Trek. All Star Trek has similarities.” Excuses are excuses. Every style of filming present in the reboot movies is in this show so no thank you.

          • TUP

            I think the reboot movies sucks. The expensive and slick production was not one of those “sucky” things. The writing sucked. Some of the creative decisions sucked and yes, that includes some of the visual looks. But the production did not suck.

            All we know about Discovery from this teaser is that the budget and effort behind the visual look does not suck. So if it has that in common with the JJ films, then I applaud them. If it has similar poor writing, I will condemn them. But we dont know that yet.

            But since you’ve made up your mind, why don’t you go away for about 5 years or however long it takes for the next iteration of Trek to crop up and you can pre-judge that too.

          • Pedro Ferreira

            “I think the reboot movies sucks. The expensive and slick production was not one of those “sucky” things. The writing sucked. Some of the creative decisions sucked and yes, that includes some of the visual looks. But the production did not suck.” It looked awful but as we’ve established you love awful.

            “All we know about Discovery from this teaser is that the budget and effort behind the visual look does not suck. So if it has that in common with the JJ films, then I applaud them. ” Good for you bad the the 95% who want a good Star Trek series. You’re in the minority there.

            “But since you’ve made up your mind, why don’t you go away for about 5 years or however long it takes for the next iteration of Trek to crop up and you can pre-judge that too.” Seriously they can’t do a worse job on the next one.

          • TUP

            No it didnt look awful. But opinions vary. You’re entitled to yours. But it still doesnt make it fact.

            You certainly dont represent the will of the majority. Most Trek fans are intelligent and insightful not immature and stupid.

            Yes, they could do a worse job. They could listen to the ignorant minority like you and make a series or film that you would love. That would be worse.

            Sorry you arent that smart, my friend. I’d prefer you deescalate from your petty insults and we can just discuss Trek politely. But you’re in that tminority of foot stomping, yelling, angry Trek fan that cant Oh well.

          • Pedro Ferreira

            “You certainly dont represent the will of the majority. Most Trek fans are intelligent and insightful not immature and stupid.” He says without looking at online reviews of the trailer.

            “They could listen to the ignorant minority like you and make a series or film that you would love. That would be worse.” Yeah I mean who wants at least a competently put together Star Trek series right?

            “Sorry you arent that smart, my friend.” It’s okay, my IQ tends to drop when I chat to you.

          • TUP

            You have not seen the series. You’re nowhere intelligent or insightful enough to exprapolate the quality of the series from the teaser. That much is clear.

            Oh the old “I know you are but what am I” response. You should have gone with being a child when given the chance. Poor you.

          • Pedro Ferreira

            “You’re nowhere intelligent or insightful enough to exprapolate the quality of the series from the teaser. That much is clear.” I did a pretty good job with the reboot movies so that’s a fail on your part.

            “You should have gone with being a child when given the chance. Poor you.” No poor you. You’re acting like a spoiled brat who has to get his own way, you and the other guy. Give it a rest, it’s boring, it’s tiring and not everybody agrees you’re right in everything you say.

          • DC Forever

            Actually the look like something of a hybrid between TMP Klingons an the Kelvin Klingons.

            TMP Klingons are still my favorite. I did not like the more human looking Klingons in TNG.

          • Pedro Ferreira

            I’m not having this argument again. It’s the same Klingons!

          • DC Forever

            Not even close. TMP Klingons were much more alien looking.

          • Pedro Ferreira

            I am right. I’m not having this argument again!

          • DC Forever

            Yea, because you’ll lose it again. No one’s buying what you are selling on that topic – you look foolish making those claims that the Klingons all look alike.

          • Pedro Ferreira

            No one cares, it’s not relevant!

          • TUP

            HAHAHAHA so when you see you’re wrong you declare it’s not relevant??

            HAHAHAHAHAHAAHA.

          • Pedro Ferreira
          • TUP

            They arent. Look at pictures. For crying out loud, are you really this stupid?

          • DC Forever

            He’s really embarrassing himself with his Klingon look thing; he’s brought up this wack view before though. Weird???

          • TUP

            Makes me think he actually sees them the same when looks. Which is sort of scary. Hopefully a responsible adult finds him soon and takes him to a safe place where he can recover.

          • Pedro Ferreira

            What pictures? What are you blabbering on about now?

          • TUP

            Picture:

            noun

            1.

            a visual representation of a person, object, or scene, as a painting, drawing, photograph, etc.:
            I carry a picture of my grandchild in my wallet.

            2.

            any visible image, however produced:
            pictures reflected in a pool of water.

            3.

            a mental image:
            a clear picture of how he had looked that day.

          • Pedro Ferreria and TUP: A hundred posts just the two of you sniping at each other? Really?

            Back off, now: you both need to stop this back-and-forth bickering or we will stop it. Thank you.

          • TUP

            I agree. And Im not sure if it was on purpose or simply a creative decision that ends up resembling those. If you take the basic Klingon design, whatever decision you make, its going to have some similarities to established designs.

            What people like Pedro fail to understand is the look of the Klingons have changed several times.

            Saying that, I think this is enough of a departure for this specific era that I think the way they look will be explained on screen.

          • TUP

            The Klingons dont look like the JJ film Klingons anymore or less than they look like TMP Klingons. In fact, they probably look more like TMP than they do STID. But TMP is PRIME timeline so that doesnt support your whining.

            And we have not seen the explanation for the Klingons yet. You do understand that was a TEASER trailer, not the complete first season of the series right?

            People like you are hilarious. Because you’re stomping your feet so much that when you finally see the show and if you LOVE it, you will still pretend you hate it becaue you will never adit you were wrong.

          • Pedro Ferreira

            “The Klingons dont look like the JJ film Klingons anymore or less than they look like TMP Klingons. In fact, they probably look more like TMP than they do STID. But TMP is PRIME timeline so that doesnt support your whining.” You need glasses if you think that.

            “People like you are hilarious. Because you’re stomping your feet so much that when you finally see the show and if you LOVE it, you will still pretend you hate it becaue you will never adit you were wrong.” I’m sure you said the same thing about the reboot movies and look how those turned out. I’m glad you’re laughing but for those of us whoa re serious about Star Trek this is no laughing matter.

          • DC Forever

            The Klingons get changed all the time in Star Trek. It’s like a running joke now. Deal with it and have some fun with it.

            20 years from now, they will get changed again, guaranteed!

          • Pedro Ferreira

            “The Klingons get changed all the time in Star Trek. It’s like a running joke now. Deal with it and have some fun with it.” Why would I want to have fun with a bad CGI show with lens flare and desaturated colours?

          • TUP

            If you are so committed to hating the show and have no intention of watching, why do you waste your time posting about it?

            Get over it. And go away.

            Dont play the role of “angry Trek fan” to create an internet persona. Its lame.

          • Pedro Ferreira

            “Get over it. And go away.” Why are my opinions so offensive to you? Do you own this website? Are you in charge? If what I say does offend you then just leave.

            “Dont play the role of “angry Trek fan” to create an internet persona. Its lame.” I have no intention, I’m expressing my opinions. It’s your my fault you can’t handle them.

          • TUP

            Again, if you feel the Discovery Klingons are the same as in STID, then you need more than glasses.

            When it comes to the JJ films, I was very excited about them and very open minded. I liked 2009. I supported the use of Khan BEFORE STID and admitted I was wrong after because STID sucked.

            I liked Beyond when I first saw it and liked it less on repeated viewings.

          • Pedro Ferreira

            “Discovery Klingons are the same as in STID, then you need more than glasses.” Says the person who thinks the production values of those films is great. Should have gone to SpecSavers mate.

          • TUP

            Again, you’re confusing ignorance with facts. You can say what you want about the JJ films, but they were expensive and slickly produced.

            Sorry you dont understand, kid.

          • Pedro Ferreira

            It’s ok son I forgive you.

          • TUP

            Nothing to forgive. I corrected you. You conceded. I accept your apology.

          • Pedro Ferreira

            Ok thanks son.

          • DC Forever

            The Discovery Klingons have a much more reptilian alien look to them than the JJ Klingons.

            No offense, but you have to be the least perceptive person I have ever run into in terms of assessing Klingons. You lack basic human skills of visual perception that the rest of us find obvious. Or maybe you do need new eyeglasses?

            You are making yourself look foolish every time you bring up this silly topic. Just saying.

          • Pedro Ferreira

            It’s okay. You can’t see properly, we understand.

            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DV2qiOeUT9E

          • TUP

            Its like arguing with a 5 year old about bed time. Pedro doesnt get it. We’re playing chess while he tries to figure out checkers.

          • DC Forever

            Agreed!

        • DC Forever

          Cool – you’ve seen the scripts for season 1. Fantastic! Please tell us the storyline and what happens this season?

          • Pedro Ferreira

            I never said that. Also if I did why would I post spoilers here?

          • DC Forever

            I am completely mystified then by your statement where you claim to have been “presented” key information about the series such that you can draw this grandiose negative conclusion about the series “making no sense.”

            There is simply not enough information out right now for anyone to come to a conclusion like that. You are simply blowing smoke out your…

          • Pedro Ferreira

            I never said that either. You’re the one jumping to conclusions here.

          • DC Forever

            So you admit then that your conclusion that “the whole thing as presented makes no sense at all” was premature and ill informed? If you are not ready to admit that, then my previous posts here responding to you are spot on, and you are simply trying to dodge them.

          • Pedro Ferreira

            Nope, you’re putting words into my mouth, i.e. jumping to conclusions. You seem very good at doing that so far.

          • DC Forever

            Saying I am the one jumping to conclusions is fracking hilarious.

            The only person here making baseless pronouncements about the quality of the show based on the little bit of information we have is you – FACT

          • Pedro Ferreira

            “Saying I am the one jumping to conclusionS is fracking hilarious.” You also can’t spell and are using made up words.

            “The only person here making baseless pronouncements about the quality of the show based on the little bit of information we have is you – FACT” Well actually unlike you I watched the trailer, FACT!

          • DC Forever

            Thanks for proving my point for me – there is very little information in the trailer to make any sort of judgement call on this series.

            Thanks!

          • Pedro Ferreira

            Cool. Well I hope they release a new trailer that presents a radical departure from what the previous one does.

          • TUP

            Why? The trailer was very good, especially for a teaser. Of course they are going to highlight some of the tech and action. Its a TEASER.

            Im excited for the show. if the story telling sucks or if they crap all over canon, then I will complain the loudest. So far, Im excited. I wont get angry and stomp my feet until I actually see the damn show.

          • Pedro Ferreira

            The trailer looks terrible.

          • TUP

            No it doesn’t. If you want to be more specific, perhaps I would agree with some of your points. But so far you have been hung up on “it doesnt look like TOS” which, if you thought it would, you have no one to blame but yourself because it’s not the 60’s anymore.

          • Pedro Ferreira

            It looks really bad and mediocre unless you like mediocre?

          • TUP

            You are a fool. It looks very expensive and well produced. We cannot comment about the quality of the writing because we havent seen any episodes.

            I’ve heard some criticism of the acting from the clips and its relevant to be concerned if you felt the acting was bad. But we dont have any context and it would be unfair to make a blanket statement without seeing more.

            Otherwise it would be like people reading your posts and concluding you’re an angry, immature, child lacking patience and common sense. I can assume that’s not true but we dont have full knowledge or context.

            Neither do you about Discovery. Wait til it airs and then try to come up with an intelligent way of conveying your feelings and then we can politely discuss.

            Some people love TOS. Some hate it. Some love TNG. Some hate it. Some love JJ films. Some hate them. heck, I bet some people even hate the Shawshank Redemption. You know what say about opinions. But dont present your opinion as fact when you’ve been proven wrong.

          • Pedro Ferreira

            “You are a fool.” Better to be a fool than an idiot like you eh?

            “It looks very expensive and well produced.” Glasses would really help you, really they would.

            “I’ve heard some criticism of the acting from the clips and its relevant to be concerned if you felt the acting was bad.” Too early to tell but the acting in the trailer looks kind of underwhelming and one part unintentionally funny.

            “Otherwise it would be like people reading your posts and concluding you’re an angry, immature, child lacking patience and common sense.” The difference being I am actually thinking for myself instead of acting like a lemming, soaking in everything a studio tells me to like. Now that is worse!

            “Wait til it airs and then try to come up with an intelligent way of conveying your feelings and then we can politely discuss.” Can’t wait for the further disappointment.

            “Some people love TOS. Some hate it. Some love TNG. Some hate it. Some love JJ films. Some hate them. heck, I bet some people even hate the Shawshank Redemption. You know what say about opinions. But dont present your opinion as fact when you’ve been proven wrong.” Ha, ha! Essentially you’re saying everybody is allowed to have an opinion except when you want to be proven right. Hypocrite much pal?

          • TUP

            No, I think being a fool that thinks intelligent reasonable people are idiots would be worse. We can now add lack of character t your profile since you continue to dish out petty and lame insults since you are not capable of forming a relevant discussion point.

            Again, you were confusing your opinion with fact. I schooled you on that long ago and you dropped that entire discussion because you lack the character to admit you were wrong.

            You can keep spouting opinion, even if its silly and lame. That’s your right. We’re long past the point of debating facts, because I won that debate (as did others who tried to explain it to you).

          • Pedro Ferreira

            “I think being a fool that thinks intelligent reasonable people are idiots would be worse.” Where are these ‘intelligent reasonable people’ you speak of? You don’t actually mean you do you?

            “Again, you were confusing your opinion with fact.” Your opinions yes!

            “I schooled you on that long ago and you dropped that entire discussion because you lack the character to admit you were wrong.” You’re obviously a rubbish teacher who no one on here asked for to ‘school’ them.

            “You can keep spouting opinion, even if its silly and lame.” Is it because it’s not YOUR opinion?

            “We’re long past the point of debating facts, because I won that debate (as did others who tried to explain it to you).” Keep telling yourself that, it’s good for self confidence (wink).

          • TUP

            A post devoid of all relevancy. Try again. Stay on topic. Or dont bother. The rest of us dont deserve to have to weed through your off topic, trolling nonsense.

          • Pedro Ferreira

            “A post devoid of all relevancy. Try again. Stay on topic. Or dont bother. The rest of us dont deserve to have to weed through your off topic, trolling nonsense.” Speaking of not saying anything relevant and going off topic…

          • TUP

            Why are you so angry? Do you own stock in 60’s TOS parts or something?

          • Pedro Ferreira

            I just like to think for myself. Is that a problem for you?

          • TUP

            No, I dont care what you do. But you’re continued refusal to accept facts as facts is worth correcting.

          • Pedro Ferreira

            Yet you are forgetting the facts are quite loose here. About three days into filming they changed one character into another. There are no ‘facts’ with the people behind Discovery because no one has said anything so far from the production team that has made a lick of sense!

          • TUP

            No, that is not indicative of loose facts. Creative changes happen in the early production of news series’ all the time.

            Stop denying reality. There are plenty of FACTS. And one of them is that the show takes place in the PRIME universe. The fact CBS has no rights to the JJ films’ Kelvin Universe is another strike against your silly argument.

          • Pedro Ferreira

            “The fact CBS has no rights to the JJ films’ Kelvin Universe is another strike against your silly argument.” Yet it looks exactly like it complete with rubbish lens flare. FACT!

          • TUP

            I guess they will have to pay JJ royalties for use of lens flares. Oh wait, he didnt invent them? You mean it’s a filming techique used my many directors? Weird.

            Sarcasm aside, I agree that their intent was to create a visual quality that looked cinematic. I’ve heard comparisons to Game of Thrones as well as far as premium TV that is budgted and filmed on a film-like scale.

            The trailer told me a few things – that CBS/Netflix put a lot of money into it, that their SFX were magnificently increased since the lousy Discovery rendering last year and that in many ways, they have respected the franchise.

            What it didnt tell us was much about the story. The fact it focused on the visual look and tone makes sense as it was a Teaser meant to show up the expense of the program.

            Unless you’ve seen an episode yet, which you haven’t, you cannot comment about the quality of the story.

          • Pedro Ferreira

            “Oh wait, he didnt invent them? You mean it’s a filming techique used my many directors? Weird.” Maybe I don’t want a Star Trek show with lens flare, fake CGI and desaturated colours?

            “I’ve heard comparisons to Game of Thrones as well as far as premium TV that is budgted and filmed on a film-like scale.” Yeah because as you know Game of Thrones is in the same genre as Star Trek???

            “that CBS/Netflix put a lot of money into it, that their SFX were magnificently increased since the lousy Discovery rendering last year and that in many ways, they have respected the franchise.” Please tell me you’re joking. Come on, seriously, you’re joking aren’t you?

            “as it was a Teaser meant to show up the expense of the program.” Which is peanuts, check!

          • TUP

            If you dont want a show with lens flares, dont watch it. Did Fuller and Kurtzman not call you and ask for your opinion? Was the show not called Star Trek: What Pedro Wants? Sorry you dont like it but you prejudiced pinion is not a fact.

            Again, reading comprehension is your friend. I never said GoT and Star Trek were the same genre. My point was clear for all intelligent beings to grasp. Please review.

            What is the budget? Were you in the budget meetings? Or have you once again flown off the handle like a child who cant control their feelings and decided that Discovery was not provided with a good budget? Because I can assure you, the quality of the teaser is far more indicative of a healthy budget, not peanuts. However, if they have produced what we saw on a peanuts budget, then we can be very happy about the talent of those responsible.

          • Pedro Ferreira

            “Did Fuller and Kurtzman not call you and ask for your opinion? Was the show not called Star Trek: What Pedro Wants? Sorry you dont like it but you prejudiced pinion is not a fact.” Oh I thought I was allowed to express an opinion? Like you trying to force everybody to agree with you?

            “reading comprehension is your friend. I never said GoT and Star Trek were the same genre. My point was clear for all intelligent beings to grasp. Please review.” You’re trying to compare two shows that are in totally different genres. I think you need learning comprehension skills dude.

            “What is the budget?” Crap by the looks of it.

            “Were you in the budget meetings?” No but if you were that would explain a lot.

            “Or have you once again flown off the handle like a child who cant control their feelings and decided that Discovery was not provided with a good budget?” Big budget doesn’t mean anything, it’s how you use it and they clearly haven’t used it here.

            “the quality of the teaser is far more indicative of a healthy budget, not peanuts.” Then everyone involved needs to be fired.

          • TUP

            You’re allowed to express an opinion. I’ve stated that repeatedly. You’re even allowed to lie, miscontrue and insult. But that invited people to retort and correct you. Opinions are not facts.

            Never did I compare the creativity of GoT and Star Trek. Again, you are lying to attack the messenger rather than the message. I assume you just arent smart enough to understand the point. Maybe have a responsible adult explain it to you.

            Again, you can dislike the look but if you think it looks cheap, you’re really exposing your lack of comprehension.

            Can someone else confirm to me that Pedro is “special” so I dont feel bad about educating him so much?

          • Pedro Ferreira

            “You’re allowed to express an opinion. I’ve stated that repeatedly.” As long as they’re yours yes otherwise they’re just opinions.

            “Never did I compare the creativity of GoT and Star Trek.” You compared GoT and Star Trek. Why would you even bring up such a combination? It makes you look silly.

            “you’re really exposing your lack of comprehension.” Or maybe I know better production values than you eh?

            “Can someone else confirm to me that Pedro is “special” so I dont feel bad about educating him so much?” Did I say I was special?

          • TUP

            If you fail to understand the relevant point of discussing premium TV content, which has been brought up by industry people, that’s a “you problem” not a “me problem”.

            You did not say you were special. I was asking others who might know you better if you had special needs so I didnt feel bad continuing to expose your ignorance. You didnt comprehend that either. Go figure.

          • Pedro Ferreira

            “If you fail to understand the relevant point of discussing premium TV content, which has been brought up by industry people, that’s a “you problem” not a “me problem”.” It’s all your fault, no it’s my fault. How old are you again since you want to know my age?

            “I was asking others who might know you better if you had special needs so I didnt feel bad continuing to expose your ignorance. You didnt comprehend that either. Go figure.” Your ability to make up crap is great but as you say “go figure”.