Saturday was a big day for a group of lucky fans who made it to Fan Expo Canada, as Star Trek: Discovery art director Matt Middleton and members of his team journeyed to the Metro Toronto Convention Center to share some exclusive insights into the design of the series.

While fans in the panel audience got to see a number of new concept illustrations, digital models, and photographs of the upcoming show’s sets and prop design, there were no photos or video footage permitted – so unless you were there, it may be a while until any of those new images get to the rest of us.

Matt Middleton, Art Director / Set Designer:

We ask that there be no photography during this portion and for the remainder; any images that we put up are for the benefit of your eyes, and not to be shared with the internet. September 24 is coming soon – be patient. We’ll be releasing these videos to the web and to some of our [distribution] partners.

Todd Cherniawsky, Production Designer:

You’re kind of a privileged group of people to be in this room, and you have to take that to heart. Leaks very, very much hurt the show, so take this as a special occasion for you to be a select group of people to see stuff that other people may not ever get a chance to see.

Though we don’t have new images to share — all the photos below are from previously-released promotion — we’ve sifted through the presentation to feature some of the best bits of new information shared by the Discovery creatives to give some additional insight towards the work that’s gone into the design of the series.

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Production designer Todd Cherniawsky began by addressing the dedication of the the entire creative team involved in Discovery.

Cherniawsky: The first thing I want to say is that these endeavors take an incredible amount of people to mount, and an incredible amount of time. I think sometimes it’s very easy for the fan base to be very critical – and fairly critical – of the work we do.

But the one thing I want to enforce to this audience, and the entire Star Trek audience, is that for all of us here that have the chance to work on the show, this is very, very precious material to us. This is all part of our childhood; we’re all big fans.

So every decision that’s been made along the way has been really carefully thought out. But we appreciate criticism and concerns for the franchise – so hopefully we can shed some light on the process that takes a lot of time, a lot of resources, and a lot of very smart people.

John Eaves concept drawings of the USS Shenzhou. (STLV 2017)

It seemed to make sense to be as true to TOS as possible; that series was envisioned in the 60’s. We asked the [design] team to always that as our point of reference – what would the future look like in the 60’s? – but still, of course, utilizing all the great tools we have today.

I know that there’s been a lot of discussion about our show ships already, but please know that John Eaves and Scott Schneider who are our principle Federation ship designers — John Eaves has probably designed 70% of all the Star Trek television series fleet, so John knows these ships better all of us do.

We’re obviously trying to update things. Fabrication processes have changed so much since the 60’s, so we have to take those things into account. But all these ships again, were done by John Eaves, who is, essentially, the master of Federation designer and does beautiful work.

The USS Shenzhou’s bridge set.

We are always asked how accurate the exterior of our ships reflect the interior.

We go to great lengths to make sure the rooms fit inside the house. We obviously have to take cheats at times — one of the great classic examples is that you cannot fit the interior of the Millennium Falcon into the exterior of the Millennium Falcon! So there are times when we have to take artistic license, but it’s still most important [to work for] the story.

Reality and science are spring points, but remember, it is science fiction.

The Klingon sarcophagus ship set, under construction in late 2016.

As you may recall, Star Trek: Discovery is being filmed at the massive Pinewood Toronto Studios, in a 45,900-square-foot soundstage – the largest in North America – which also has nine acres of outdoor backlot space.

Supervising art director Mark Steel shares some insight into the huge undertaking a show of Discovery’s size and scope really is – and how much behind-the-scenes talent is involved in such a production.

Steel: I’m not going to try to go into details [of 50 years of Star Trek production], but a lot of the fundamental issues of bringing the creative vision of writers, directors, and production designers into the practical world of a TV series — on schedule — are more or less the same as fifty years ago.

But the big difference in terms of where we are now, compared to then, is that we have essentially episodic cinema that’s being produced now — and that brings with it a scale and challenge that pushes our design process into the realm of feature film. In our sets, in terms of detail and facility, are on par with major motion pictures now.

There are six stages in action right now, and what I want to point out about this is that my job, along with Matt Middletown, is to assemble a team of people to try to meet the demand of this scale.

What that means, is that in our modern television production, there are 7 art directors, more than 9 illustrators, more than 35 set designers, and more than 450 painters, carpenters, sculptors, model makers, welders, set dressers, prop builders — in shops in Toronto, Montreal, Calgary, and Los Angeles — all working together to bring us this volume of scenery to make the show.

Concept art of the Klingon sarcophagus ship. (San Diego Comic Con)

Art Director Matt Middleton also spent a great deal of time discussing the Klingon sarcophagus ship, which seems to be one of the primary vessels facing off against Federation forces in the opening episodes of the series.

Middleton: There were certain staging requirements for the [Klingon sarcophagus] ship — that it needed to have a cathedral-type presence to be a church, a ritual space, and a functioning bridge for the Klingon Empire.

The sources that the design team went to were feudal sources – so going back to Byzantine and medieval gothic and Islamic sources, to find references that would create a high level of sophisticated detail, for a race that had long been perceived as brutal, one-minded, and simplistic in order to breathe new life into the Klingon race and raise them to the worthy adversarial position that this new iteration of the series demands.

The Klingon sarcophagus ship, as it became known, [is] a flagship of sorts for the Klingons, [with] multiple levels, mezzanines, and focal points for dramatic staging of our Klingon leaders, orating to their followers, and creating dramatic spaces where power plays and shifts of power could occur.

[There are also] unparalleled views into the broader space so that we felt the space when we’re in the ship. You don’t just find yourself in a room with no windows and just interact with space on a viewscreen, we always want to maximize how much we feel the presence of space and our position within.

It’s a very large ship, massive, [but] this bridge [takes up] just a very small section of it, just the nose of the point of the head; the set itself is 40 feet tall, 100 feet long, and about 50 feet wide, with cantilevers, and lots of stairs and railings.

Middleton also made several references to the 1984 Star Trek novel The Final Reflection, a seminal look into the Klingon Empire by author John M. Ford, a work that Discovery cast member Kenneth Mitchell (Kol) has also used in his character research – likely a suggested read from the show’s leadership team as a heavy influence on the series.

Middleton: We also sought not just to have fun with the architecture, but also the details that spoke to the history and culture of the Klingon race. As a touchstone, we looked to John Ford’s THE FINAL REFLECTION which was a work really used as a launching-off point for the Klingons by Bryan Fuller.

There is Klingon text on the steps [inside the ship], we have a lot of ritual torches and sarcophagi and glyphs, and other details. For example, [one section of] the Klingon text… was all carefully researched and taken from transcripts from THE FINAL REFLECTION, and we made sure that we had accurate Klingon translation.

This one, says [speaks Klingon to audience] which reads: “‘I will go now to Sto’vo’kor, but I promise one day I will return.’ Then Kahless pointed to a star in the sky and said, look for me there, in that point of light.”

Which is a big promise from Kahless!

This ancient phrase attributed to Kahless may be a clue to the purpose behind the Klingon Torchbearer we’ve now seen featured in multiple trailers – perhaps the key to “uniting the Klingon houses” is related to some kind of ‘return’ of Kahless the Unforgettable.

Klingon script carved into the floor of the sarcophagus ship’s central chamber.

Middleton: We always sought to ingrain these details into the actual set, and this adherence to detail and reverence for all things Klingon permeated our art department, and we had much delight in taking on the roles of the Klingons and thinking about how we can pay them the most honor.

This got into details like the game of Klin zha from THE FINAL REFLECTION, a game that warlords play against each other as a teaching game to teach military strategy… and bloodwine cups, which even have text on them — translated in this case to “May Your Blood Scream.”

The sarcophagus ship for us was an exercise in how can we make this even more intricate, more elaborate, and more worthy of Star Trek universe.

The Shenzhou bridge, located under the primary hull.

Set designer Matt Morgan has been helming all things Federation for the Shenzhou, the Discovery, and other Federation interiors set to appear in Discovery,

Morgan: One of the most unique things about [the Shenzhou’s] bridge is that it’s underslung on the bottom [of the ship], which presented some challenges for construction, that it’s built 12 feet off of the ground. It’s a challenge for the crew to work in, and it’s a massive set.

One of the main things for almost all of our sets is that they have integrated lighting. More than you can imagine.

Middleton: Integrated lighting is a very important thing – keep that in mind as you think of how many lighting sources you’re seeing… each one of those is individually installed, keyed, adjusted, and can be set from a central controller, so we can have different looks for different red alerts, black alerts, and yellow alerts.

Morgan: As there is two main Federation ships for the series, one of the main [goals] was, “How can we use these sets [to represent] two ships?”  Here’s a Shenzhou corridor. By switching different elements – graphics, paint – it becomes a Discovery corridor.

A darkened Discovery corridor (top); an abandoned Shenzhou corridor (bottom).

The Discovery transporter is in the exact same space as the Shenzhou transporter room; we were able to remove and add pieces to go back and forth [Same with] the Shenzhou turbolift and Discovery turbolift.

The challenge in switching sets over is trying to design things in a way that we can repurpose and go back and forth between different things. For every one of these sets, there are probably hundreds of pages of drawings on different details, breaking things down. It takes 8-10 different set designers working on different elements to achieve that.

One of the USS Shenzhou’s tactical display monitors.

Finally, graphic artist Tim Peel spoke about the new look of Starfleet computer systems, and – after paying compliments to Trek graphics wizard Mike Okuda – shared some information about how today’s technology can bring those display consoles to life.

Peel: I’ve done my best to give you something better than a cell phone[interface], so you believe we’re really in the 23rd Century.

One advantage [over previous series] is that we can animate them now, I can make them touch-interactive, and have access to 3D models. So I can keep the look the same, but the tech is just way more advanced than it used to be. So I try to honor the look and feel [of the previous interface designs], but the tech is a little better.

He also shared some insight to level of detail used throughout the different vessels – from the color of the Shenzhou display interfaces to the graphics featured in turbolift and transporter sets.

Shenzhou [interfaces have a] slightly blue-y restricting of the color schemes; we’ll slowly advance and become more colorful as we approach the Original Series [time period].

We really did work out deck plans, and have  [the ships] sliced into 3D models for all the possible levels to give you a true sense of transporting – or turbolifting – through the levels of the ship. [In the transporter room, the panels are] all interactive so this actually sliders actually work; I watched O’Brien many times!

When — and if — any of these tantalizing images are released for public distribution, we’ll certainly bring them to you here – so keep checking back with TrekCore for more Star Trek: Discovery updates!

  • David Lund

    Really interesting insights – if the writing and direction matches the care and detail in the production design, this series will hopefully be outstanding

  • Thomas Elkins

    “Shenzhou [interfaces have a] slightly blue-y restricting of the color schemes; we’ll slowly advance and become more colorful as we approach the Original Series [time period].”

    Hopefully this means they take the same approach with other things, like uniforms and Klingons. Use Discovery to bridge the gap between the USS Kelvin and TOS Enterprise in terms of aesthetic.

    • Karl

      Back tracking and damage control after the near universal rejection of everything released to date to the fandom.
      The most expensive and spectacular flop in the history of TV (well, not TV as it’s behind an online paywall with no apps or hardware available to actually watch it on a TV unless you have a computer next to a tv with an HDMI out).

      • Your Worst Nightmare

        Apple TV has CBS All Access. As does my Samsung Smart TV. Would you like to try again?

        • TUP

          The attacks on the business model of streaming is the most desperate attempt by the attention starved negative narrative pushers. I mean it’s 2017. But yeah steaming is bad. Lol

          • Karl

            Looks like there will be at least a dozen of you lot then

      • Pedro Ferreira

        Also your ability to stream can’t be poor as well, that’s the other problem.

        • TUP

          So get better internet then.

          • Pedro Ferreira

            Yeah sure pay me along with lots of other people and we will.

          • TUP

            Get a better job. Why is it my or cbs’ responsibly to make sure you can afford luxury items like television?

            Many people cannot afford Netflix or cable. Or a tv.

            And your whining about the state of your internet? If you can’t afford it that’s fine. No one is faulting you. But it’s not a criticism of discovery or cbs that you can’t afford to watch their tv show.

          • Pedro Ferreira

            Get a better job? How about you stick to your nice comfy job that earns you thousands and us people who work damn hard for what we got can have our opinion that streaming services aren’t for us eh?

          • TUP

            You’re the one complaining about not being able to afford it. Not me. You have no idea what I do or how much I make. So why the attitude? Lol

          • Pedro Ferreira

            You’re trying to say you know my situation as usual but you don’t. I think I have a right to complain digital streaming services to watch one show is a silly idea.

          • TUP

            Ummm no you actually made remarks about me implying you knew my situation. I did not do that at all. Weird you’d confuse your behaviour with mine.

            Now if you want to discuss the pros and cons of All Access that is relevant. But you’re remark was about being able to afford the appropriate internet for a quality stream. Which is not the same point at all my friend.

            The cost per episode of discovery is actually very small. $1.50 or
            Something? If that’s not
            Worth it to you or you can’t afford it that’s fine.

          • Karl

            You can try to divert commentary as much as you like, and indeed you seem to be a master at it.

            Face facts, STD is the Titanic of the franchise that will sink on it’s maiden voyage. I couldn’t care less if you see things differently with rose tinted glasses, that’s your problem

          • TUP

            I appreciate the compliment. But one hardly has to be a master to discuss things in a reasonable and relevant manner.

            It defies all logic to be as negative as you are being with such bold proclamations. The series hasn’t even aired yet. It’s hilarious.

          • The Science Fiction Oracle

            It will be interesting to see if you have the balls to show up here through the season if in fact it is a ratings success.

            My bet would be you won’t have the balls to come back here in your current identity and take accountability for being wrong.

          • Pedro Ferreira

            My point is that asking the consumer to join countless digital streaming services to watch one TV show is adding expense just for the sake of it.

          • TUP

            How is CBS asking you to join countless streaming services to enjoy one show? You need only join ONE service to enjoy Discovery.

          • Pedro Ferreira

            I’m talking about studios in general TUP, MGM has Stargate now as well doing the same thing. It’ll just keep going.

          • TUP

            Well yes, of course it will keep going. There was a time when most people got 6 channels. And then more and more cable got added. Then premium cable. Then Netflix. Then Hulu etc.

            Its the evolution of technology. OTT is the way thing are going and via internet will be how most of it is delivered in the future. Its actually a good thing for the consumer.

            Yes, there will be a period of transition where a lot of good programming is spread over many services. But the key thing will be the competition of quality. Thats good for consumers.

            This is really a very wise move by CBS.

            But to your point, you specifically said you were being asked to join countless streaming services to enjoy one show. That is not true. So to complain about CBS AA based on your need or want for multiple services to enjoy multiple shows is not fair or accurate.

            No one is under any obligation to join All Access or Netflix or any streaming platform. But to fight the technological evolution is a losing battle. It’s not just coming, it’s here.

          • Pedro Ferreira

            “But to fight the technological evolution is a losing battle. It’s not just coming, it’s here.” Good for you but you know what maybe some of us are happy with the way things are eh?

          • TUP

            lol okay. But that’s not a reasonable criticism of CBS. You can still play your betamax tapes on your 12 inch black & white TV too. But you cant blame CBS for making 4K blu rays.

            Your reply makes no sense.

          • Pedro Ferreira

            Your replies never make sense. Ha, ha!

          • TUP

            Insults are you way of deflecting when you don’t understand. Too bad. We were having a reasonable discussion.

          • Pedro Ferreira
          • TUP

            How many comments make a discussion? Is there a rule? It was reasonable at least. Well, until you “Pedro’ed” it. lol

          • Pedro Ferreira

            That wasn’t a discussion. There are normally a couple of here but never really any involving you.

          • TUP

            Good God…how much more? Enough is enough. You’re gross. Please go away. *Reported*

          • Pedro Ferreira

            If I annoy you there is a block function on here?

          • TUP

            Yup. Also a report function too.

          • Pedro Ferreira

            See now we know why people who disagree with you get banned. Someone doesn’t agree with you, you report them? I know people like you, they build up a reputation that even the mods don’t question. You’re an argumentative person and if your ego didn’t get in the way you’d use the block button.

          • TUP

            Are you implying that the fine Trekcore moderators ban people for the sole reason of “disagreeing with TUP”? Good God man…enough with the conspiratorial nonsense. You’re not a victim.

            If you think I have a reputation of such profound strength that the moderators would not question me well, I appreciate the compliment but its surely not true. Im not the most prolific poster nor the longest tenured nor the most respected. I do not know any of the moderators.

            As for blocking, it has nothing to do with ego. I just prefer not to block or report people. Only in rare occurrence is it necessary. And quite honestly, the wonderful mods here make it so the block button is really not necessary. But if you experience mental anguish as a result of my existence, I suggest blocking me. But you are certainly not obligated to.

            Let’s just move on and discuss Star Trek now, please. Because I can strongly guess that we will both be receiving a memo from the mods if this continues. Star Trek, my friend, is the unifying force here. Let’s embrace it! Together!

          • Pedro Ferreira

            I’m not here to cause trouble. Please be respectful of others opinions thanks.

          • TUP

            lol yes thank you. 😉

          • Your Worst Nightmare

            Most of these streaming services are month to month services, not annual subscriptions. My wife and I plan to subscribe to CBSAA starting a day or two before Discovery premieres, take advantage of the free week and then subscribe October and November, drop it for December and re-up when Discovery comes back in January.

            While I can’t be bothered to watch more Stargate, I would imagine you could do the same with MGM.

          • Pedro Ferreira

            Good idea.

          • Your Worst Nightmare

            Thanks.

            I just get a little tired of this thought that buying a bunch of streaming services will break the bank. You can pick and choose not only which ones you pay for but also when you subscribe to them. That’s the joy of a la carte!

          • Pedro Ferreira

            I just think as it starts to happen more and more people have too much choice but not one dedicated service. What you end up getting is segregation of content. It might be a move to outdo Netflix or at least sow the seeds but in reality it creates too much competition and market confusion. Anyway I’m not into streaming but stuff like Netflix and this channel does affect me as someone who buys physical media so just offering my viewpoint on this.

          • Your Worst Nightmare

            I don’t think it’s necessarily a move to outdo anyone. I think in this day and age, there are going to be a lot of competing niche streaming services. I think the marketplace is also smart enough to understand the difference between Netflix, Hulu, Amazon Prime, HBO Now and CBS All Access. We as a society are pulled in so many directions for our entertainment, we will figure it out. I don’t really consider CBSAA a big competitor in this game. They’re trying to be a midsize streaming service. I don’t think there’s any thought they’ll be able to overtake the big names.

            But as I am someone who streams, I am excited for the prospect of more “channels” like this that will eventually lead to better entertainment. It doesn’t mean my monthly expenditure for streaming will go up that much. Just that I’ll be more deliberate about canceling and finding content I might enjoy.

            I respect it’s not for everyone. But it’s really not that bad.

          • Pedro Ferreira

            I’m just too old school which isn’t always a bad thing I guess. I do prefer physical copies of video games for instance over digital DRM stuff.

          • Your Worst Nightmare

            Absolutely no judgment. I should be older school about these things but the way I look at it, a 2TB hard drive takes up a lot less space than 150 blu rays.

            That doesn’t mean I don’t buy SOME blu-rays. Just not a lot.

          • Pedro Ferreira

            I just like to have something physical. There are so many issues with digital games or films. At least I properly own something I can hold in my hand provided it’s not DRM based. I do get what you mean though.

          • Your Worst Nightmare

            And I get that too. Personally, I’ve had no problem with DRM stuff, and if I ever would, I imagine the problem would be resolved rather easily by contacting the company I’ve purchased the media from.

            But I respect the concern. And at the end of the day, it’s really just a preference.

            Also, as much as DRM is an issue, physical media decays. I have DVDs I bought a decade ago that no longer work. And since getting married, I have a hard time with the idea of spending money on things I already own. Or, I suppose I should say, MY WIFE has a problem with that… 😉

          • Pedro Ferreira

            I have been the victim in the past of DRM failing me when trying to play a game. Maybe I should get a t-shirt. Ha, ha!

          • Your Worst Nightmare

            Ha! Maybe. I also don’t do a lot of gaming so that may be why I haven’t had issues. Movies? Books? Music? No problem!

          • Pedro Ferreira

            DRM and digital stuff is what I have problems with. You never really own something you’ve bought as I found out with the Sengoku Anthology Collection for PC.

          • Your Worst Nightmare

            I understand that. And I’m sorry for your woes. I’m also talking about digital media in the form of movies, books, and music. I’ve never (knock on wood) had problems with owning and then not owning something in that form.

          • Pedro Ferreira

            It’s all to do with servers and whether companies who own the rights to what you’ve bought staying in business. For my game the company who put out my game collection went out of business and it needed online activation. I did get it working only because I contacted a DRM agency that handles DRM removal. But I shouldn’t have to do that. No warning, no nothing, the servers in order for online activation are gone by the time I’ve bought the game. SNK Playmore really messed up there. I do buy digital gaming occasionally from Steam but GOG is better because you can actually download the game installer as well as it’s extra content therefore you actually own it. You really can’t do that with a lot of digital stuff due to companies fear of piracy.

          • Your Worst Nightmare

            I do own a few games through Steam. But most of my media is through Apple and Amazon. I’m not worried about losing it. *shrugs*

          • Pedro Ferreira

            I totally recommend GOG if you want to feel like you actually own something. On Steam I’ve bought two products in the past where the game keys had already been redeemed. On one I didn’t get any kind of refund, on the other I was lucky because the external Amazon did something about it.

          • Your Worst Nightmare

            But that would presuppose I do a lot of gaming. I don’t. I got a package of Star Wars games from Humble Bumble and own the first Walking Dead game… all through Steam. No real issues at all. And I barely play them as it is.

          • Pedro Ferreira

            Well I like playing video games so as you can probably guess that would effect me. All I’m saying is digital gaming or other forms of digital entertainment aren’t foolproof.

          • Your Worst Nightmare

            I don’t deny that for a moment. I’ve heard horror stories. I’ve just never had problems.

            The way you worded your last post, it sounded like you were suggesting that I go try the service you suggested. That’s why my reaction came the way it did. I apologize if I misconstrued.

          • Pedro Ferreira

            It’s okay, I was just trying to be helpful as GOG is I feel better than Steam. Don’t worry about it.

          • The Science Fiction Oracle

            The monthly cost is equivalent to a six pack of cheap beer, or one fancy coffee drink at Starbucks. It’s affordable for 99% of the population of the developed world if they choose to obtain it — anyone, really.

            If someone truly can’t afford this, then they have a hell of a lot more pressing problems that stressing over getting access to a Star Trek series. DSC access is the least of their worries!

          • Pedro Ferreira

            It depends whether the average person can properly stream anything longer than five minutes. Not everybody has great streaming speeds where they live. It also depends the long term cost for any TV show you want to watch. Why would I join a digital streaming service to pay for one TV show when I can use LoveFilm?

          • Karl

            He was pointing out an extremely pertinent issue.
            Christ, it’s like mumsnet on these STD articles

          • TUP

            Don’t be obtuse. You expose your silly motivations for silly attacks that way. If you want to discuss the issue of streaming let’s do it
            But don’t resort to the usual BS. It’s childish. You can do better.

      • TUP

        None of what you said is true at all. Weird effort to push a negative narrative so clearly and hilariously wrong. Lol

        • Karl

          It’s completely true

    • M33

      This series takes place a couple years past The Cage, right? 2256?
      The color schemes were duller then, but given that Discovery is an older ship than the Enterprise, it really doesn’t have to match up. It can look almost the same as the Kelvin color schemes. In fact, so far, that would seem to match up better from what we are seeing. The colorful interiors (which is, what, hints of red, blue, and yellow against pale gray) don’t appear until 2265 for certain, so they don’t have to change anything really because it is more likely Enterprise got the colorful facelift during the refit when Kirk took command.
      As much as I would love this to be as TOS as possible, they really aren’t locked into it.
      The only thing so far I haven’t been able to reconcile is the uniforms since they seem to predate The Cage and yet postdate it as well given the events in the series we’ve seen this far.
      And…
      You know what I’ve seen no one bring up?

      WHAT ABOUT THE STARDATES?

      • A_Warrior_of_Marley

        The ten years before thing is a bit vague. Is it ten years before 2266 (before Where No Man has Gone Before)? Before 2267 (1st season)?

        • M33

          The prelude novel takes place a year after The Cage (2254) and a year before DSC, which sets DSC in 2256.

      • Karl

        It’s still a highly anticipated flop prequel reboot no one wants or asked for.

        • M33

          I’ll give it a fair shake.
          Frankly, Enterprise was a big disappointment for a while.
          It wasn’t until rewatching the series a decade later that I grew to appreciate it.
          Discovery might have that possibility if it does turn out to be a flop, but I suspect that if it does flagrantly violate continuity but has strong viewership, in the end, it could be as successful as the Kelvin movies.
          I simply won’t be happy with the whole “reimagining” effort.
          But… no one will care!

          I was thinking the new series would be a 25th century show, but hearing it was TOS era really excited me because I love all the tropes and trappings of that era, the lingo, the design ethos, all of it.
          This series is not that at all.
          It’s almost identical to the Kelvin’s 2233-era aesthetics.

      • How do you know the Discovery is older? The Enterprise is a decade old at this point, the Connie could be much older. The Walker we can tell by look is a much older design. But nothing we see says the Discovery is.

        • M33

          By the registry number.
          99% of the time they are chronologically sequential.
          From what we have seen elsewhere, only some of the 12 Constitution Class vessels were given anachronistic registry numbers, probably from famous vessels or the like.
          Thereby, Discovery’s number is after the Kelvin, but before the Enterprise (or even the 1700 Constitution).
          Plus, everything about the ship, its design ethos inside and out reflect the sensibilities of the Kelvin-era more than the Constitution-class era.

    • TUP

      I’ve long had a theory that they have some secret creative developments they are holding back. I think there is an intent to build up to TOS in a meaningful way.

      • Karl

        TOS is for the middle aged manchild of Trek fans, and STD is the epitome of blinkered decision making by your middle aged manchild counterparts in production.
        Don’t expect any successes with it having been rammed down our throats since Enterprise nosedived.
        God forbid anyone should want anything other than TOS reboots and prequels, and by the looks of it you’re heavily outnumbered by the lost target audience who don’t want it either.

        • TUP

          Ohhhh I understand now. You’re one of “them”. Lol.

        • Your Worst Nightmare

          We had 4 movies and 526 episodes, 21 seasons and 14 years of the 24th century era. There is no harm in going back to where it all came from, except in your mind. I respect and appreciate the idea you wanted something that followed up on it. Why don’t you respect the fact that some people don’t and maybe, JUST MAYBE, we’re not evil, terrible people for wanting something different than what YOU want?

          Grow. Up.

  • In Season 2 they will get a fedOS software update.

    Wondering what the Black Alert could be for?

    • Karl

      Sounds racist.

      • M33

        And “yellow alert” doesn’t?

        • Karl

          no, it must be an american thing

    • Pedro Ferreira

      Considering what enemies the crew will be up against good thing it wasn’t Brown Alert!

  • The Chadwick

    I was at both the production and actors panel at FanExpo yesterday. The production panel was amazing, so much unreleased info and images were revealed. The actor panel was great in the sense that it was great to see them in the flesh and they were sincere and amusing as always. But they said more or less the same things they always do at panels. The one bit of info that I have not heard before was from Kenneth Mitchell who portrays Kol. At the panel Kenneth Mitchell said that Kol is the leader of the house of Kor. Now it could have been a slip but I have a feeling that being only three weeks away, they are just dropping more nuggets of info. I did record the audio from that panel. What he said exactly is “Kol, he is the house leader of the House of Kor. He’s a great warrior, he is a bit of an alpha Klingon amongst the Klingon leaders.”

    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/4af2b4d26b919cbc011faa792ca6bb45f3af4677ed77b4577c6ff125d23e118b.jpg https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/8a3a5fd9c24ce680d85d7f445a7ffab7c2bd75820e38f6b395d6c9d530664007.jpg https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/92fe74f51976dec85ab83beceea465fe8ac10ac4369843b69015210a78234af0.jpg

    • Yes! The House of Kor info first arrived from Mitchell’s appearance at STLV.

      • The Chadwick

        Ok. I couldn’t remember if he simply said a member of or leader of house of Kor.

  • Have we ever had confirmation if the “10 years before the Original Series” is before The Cage or before WNMHGB?

    • The Chadwick

      Its in The Cage era. In the first trailer it said “10 years before Kirk, Spock and the Enterprise.” and that has been confirmed.

      • Karl

        In the prime timeline the Enterprise is already out there with Spock too. No doubt the TOS fanboys will be wishing for a conny at every opportunity.
        This is star trek for TOS fanboys and kelvin kids.

        • Your Worst Nightmare

          This TOS fanboy doesn’t want a Connie unless it’s absolutely necessary. The show can and should be able to stand on its own. And, no, I’m not particularly thrilled about Sarek and Mudd either.

          • Pedro Ferreira

            But…but…everybody wants to see a Harry Mudd prequel story…

          • M33

            I would love at least one scene of their interaction with a Constitution-class, or other design-comparablr ship. Even just a communication that shows some of that interior, just to tie in the continuity.
            But that’s just me.

          • Your Worst Nightmare

            Well, we’ll see what they have in store! 🙂

          • I would not mind seeing how they redesign the connie to fit.

        • TUP

          TOS fanboys and Kelvin kids. Hmmm what a weird combo.

  • The Chadwick

    Being at the Toronto FanExpo Star Trek Discovery production panel there are a few other nuggets of info I will drop.

    Although they did flip through most images fairly quickly….

    The horseshoe shaped USS Shenzhou transporter platform has about 8 or 9 individual transporter pads, far more than the typical 6 pad transporter found on most Starfleet ships.

    The plaque on the USS Shenzhou reads “All existing things are really one.” I did not catch were it was built.

    Along with the traditional yellow alert, red alert and blue alert Art Director and Lead Set Designer Matt Middleton mentioned black alert. Also before he said red alert he did say orange alert but corrected himself to red alert so I do not know if orange alert was just an honest slip of the tongue but he did say black alert.

    There was a ventral shot of the USS Discovery showing a basic vector graphic image of the Discovery’s engineering area. Unless this has been changed it showed a port engineering room and a starboard engineering area as well as…..a vertical warp core.

    The animated graphic images on the screens look amazing. Granted they look VERY similar to the Kelvin universe but they look fantastic. None are done in post and none are simply painted on like in TNG. Every screen has animated graphics in real time. Also the touch screens for the helm were impressive when showing how the pilot would move the ship to impulse or warp. There were also animated diagnostic images of the ship. On the USS Discovery there are also transparent OLED displays that have up to twenty lawyers of animated graphics.

    A newly designed 3D chess board.

    The Klingon designs were inspired by Byzantine, Medieval, Gothic, Celtic and Islamic art and architecture.

    A Klingon bloodwine mug had the saying “May your blood scream.”

    • Neat info on the Shenzhou plaque!

    • TUP

      Sounds fantastic! clearly they have invested a lot of money and effort into this.

    • The Science Fiction Oracle

      Thank you for this additional info!

    • M33

      How was the tri-dimensional chess board redesigned?

  • Tuskin38

    Surprised no one has mentioned that the Kahless promise is from TNG, Rightful Heir

  • ShaunKL

    This does feel a bit like damage control. I want to hope for those more colorful screens, after having near monotone starship interface design for nearly sixteen years I could really use some color.

    And I hope to goodness that the Shenzhou’s photon torpedoes are either shaped like spacial torpedoes, or that they adjust the tactical interface to display the correct shape for photon torpedoes.

  • Pedro Ferreira

    If only the ship interiors had actual lighting. I guess in the 23rd Century they had to make a cut somewhere.

  • The Chadwick

    A minor gem from the FanExpo Discovery production panel. THIS was on the graphics display of the Discovery bridge. https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/bd7396c3f46c1272f9b5e78584f0890883b454212b9039cb210cee90ccb3a87a.jpg