CBS released today a great new video of the Captain Georgiou’s USS Shenzhou bridge set being built on stage in Toronto, a process that took weeks to complete at the Pinewood Toronto Studios.

Watch as the giant, empty production stage slowly fills with the massive starship set, complete with all the integrated lighting and technology we’ve heard about for the last several months.

The Shenzhou’s dedication plaque (rotated and enhanced). (CBS)

Spotted in the fast-paced video is a close glimpse at the Shenzhou‘s dedication plaque, which reveals that the Walker-class starship was built at the San Francisco Fleet Yards — just like the original Enterprise (NCC-1701) — but also confirms the reporting from the Fan Expo Canada production panel on the ship’s quote from the Zhuangzi:

All existing things are really one.

Also barely visible is the traditional inclusion of series production staff as ‘Starfleet Command,’ with executive producers Alex Kurtzman, Gretchen Berg, and Aaron Harberts listed first.

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There are also a few more tidbits of set information revealed by IGN tonight, including some expansion on yesterday’s first report from the outlet’s visit to the Toronto sets.

We learned a while back that Bryan Fuller’s original costume designs were similar to the coloring of the Original Series look, but IGN seems to have seen these text costumes during their visit:

While the costumes on Discovery are a new spin on the traditional Starfleet uniform… early designs more accurately called back to the original show featuring Captain Kirk.

Those costumes, which IGN glimpsed on set, followed the traditional gold/blue/red design and were even used for camera tests. They also felt similar to the look seen in [“The Cage”] but with some added zippers and trim.

Doug Jones‘ Lt. Saru, like Phlox before him, is an alien crewmember – one augmented in post-production by visual effects in certain scenarios.

While Phlox had that creepy Denobulan smile, or the seldom-seen ‘pufferfish’ inflation defense, Saru’s Kelpian species has some different kinds of anatomical abnormalities:

While most of his look is achieved via makeup and prosthetics, the character does have one CGI element. “I have a certain thing in my anatomy called threat ganglia that go and pop out,” says the actor.

“They don’t pop out when I see a threat — when a threat is apparently right in front of me — that’s not when they go off. They go off when there’s an unseen threat. So if a Klingon was out on the other side of the door but I can’t see him yet, but I’m feeling something’s not right — that’s when my threat ganglia should go off.”

IGN also reports that the varied number of displays and maps of the Federation / Klingon conflict contains some familiar names to Trek fans: planets like Galorndon Core, Sherman’s Planet, and prison asteroid Rura Penthe.

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Co-executive producer Ted Sullivan continues to share behind the scenes photos from the Discovery set, with some new looks from the series.

Mary Chieffo as Klingon battledeck commander L’Rrell:

Jimmy Chimarios as a character so far known only as ‘Polygon’ (name via IMDB):

A look at the floor detailing aboard the Klingon torchbearer ship:

Finally, a view of an officer manning one of the Shenzhou‘s engineering panels:

Keep checking back often for more Discovery news!

  • M33
    • scooternva

      Alice did such a fantastic job as the Borg Queen. She really elevated the ST:V finale. So graceful, and yet so menacing.

      • I was so confused at first LOL. I thought you were saying there was a borg in star trek V( 5)

        • scooternva

          The colon makes all the difference 🙂 I was referring, of course, to the finale of “Star Trek: Voyager” (“Endgame”).

      • M33

        Best TNG era villain.

        • I will agree, some folks hate the queen and the very idea, I loved her and the borg. They were a scary force of nature one could not cut deals or reason with.

          • M33

            Their worldview was absolute.
            And how frightening it is that in their mind they were doing “good” for the rest that they deemed “inferior”.
            Evil never sees itself as evil, it sees itself as setting things “right”.
            A potent reminder for ourselves.

            Her tone for the character was brilliant.

          • I agree, they saw themselves as right. Everyone else was too snall minded and limited to see it.

  • Thomas Elkins

    The uniforms are easy to explain away. I would make them post-Kelvin, pre-Cage uniforms. Basically there is a new uniform design, (The Cage design), but it hasn’t been adopted by everyone yet. Think of it like the DS9 uniform. The TNG crew kept their uniform for years while the DS9 uniform was in service. They didn’t begin to make the switch until Generations and then the Voyager crew all had the DS9 design after Generations as well. If we see a Constitution-class in the show, they should use the Cage design. The Discovery crew could adopt it later on.

    • M33

      I’ve come to the same conclusion.

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    • If we see a connie, it should be redesigned. I would like to see an updated cage uniform though

      • M33

        Redesign the Constitution-class within the TOS era???

        Man, that’s practically sacrilige!

        That design is canon.
        It was seen in TNG.
        It was seen in DS9.
        It was seen in Enterprise.
        It was what made the flyover spacedock scene so important in TMP because of the major redesign-refit of it.

        But I’m a die-hard TOS fan, so I really can’t be objective on your comment.
        Love the classic look.

        • ENT showed how out of date and antique it looked. The NX looked at lest a 100 years newer from a design stand point.

          TMP shape however would be fine oddly. The designer in me can’t take the TOS design being newer than the clearily newer NX, much less the Walker class or discovery. Which do look newer than the NX

          • M33

            It is interesting you say that, because I remember in the commentaries (or was it the featurettes?) for “In a Mirror Darkly”, all the production guys including the Okudas had expressed their concern that maybe going onto the TOS era bridge would look less-advanced than the NX-01. But they found that the streamlined nature of the TOS era designs made it look not dated, but more advanced in a way than the look of the NX-01, which was loaded with extraneous design-pieces. I actually agreed with them.
            Just because it might look different than what we might imagine the future to look like today doesn’t mean the technology of it wouldn’t be futuristic or more capable, or that a particular design style that we consider dated today might very well be resurrected in the future.
            Design aesthetics are not bound to technological advancement.
            We can make “old-looking” stuff now that far surpasses the ability of the times in which that “look” was pioneered.
            I think the same is true for the world of Trek.

            My $0.02.

          • It did not look more advanced, not even close. It looked antiquated and “hello 1960”. The NX looked way, way more advanced on every single way.

            It was not aesthetics, it was pure design. You can not hide what it is, a 1960s design.

          • M33

            I understand where you are coming from, and I think both views are not mutually exclusive, either.

          • To me they really are. I just can not unsee what it is. Its like putting a Model T next to a corvette, the design forms just scream “I am older than the corvette”

            I do not disagree, that the TOS connie is a classic, but they knew she was too simple in 1979, which is why you got a totally new ship and a really, really thin fiction about it being a “refit” even though this is not how class refits are done and not how any other refit in star trek history has ever been done.

            Once they went with the NX design, they simply wrote out the TOs design as it no longer fit in any way. Its forms are what every other ship, including the NX are based off of and it shows like a massive search light.

            I can respect you like it, but I can never agree it fits after ENT, it just no longer has a place.

          • I think the issue here is we’re discussing two different things. I agree that the NX-01, the Walker-Class, etc. have a much more modern design esthetic than the Constitution-Class. However, the show itself has repeatedly used the original Constitution-Class along side the newer ships, that is not debatable.

            I’ll be surprised if a decision is made to re-design the Constitution-Class ships during the course of Discovery. It is the ur-starship.

          • Actually they guys above you are debating that. They do not see the issue. And that is in fact the very thing they are arguing.

            No matter what trek has done in the past, I would be shocked if they do not redesign it.

          • My guess is they might do some minor changes, but it would still have the silhouette of the original. If they did decide to go down the more radical redesign path, they should take a look at Gabe Koerner’s model from back in 2008. http://www.modelermagic.com/?p=1118

          • The silhouette is the issue. I do agree Koerner’s take is great. It keeps much of the feel and layout, without looking dated and out of touch. I would have swept the pylons back, but its good as is. A shame they did not use this over that fugly thing in the Kelvin movies, gods that thing is awful( IMO)

          • Harry Kane

            The movies are just a mess, to be honest you might as well wright them all off as a way to make money. after paramount and cbs sat on their ass’s for years

          • The Science Fiction Oracle

            At the series level, they should have just ended the series’s with Voyager. Enterprise sent Trek on a near-death spiral.

          • The Science Fiction Oracle

            That’s why I am saying a slightly updated version of TMP refit Enterprise would work well for DSC.

          • Yeah, the basic idea is fine. It just needs fixed , updated and cleaned of the 1960’s styling and made to flow with the other ships.

          • The Science Fiction Oracle

            Exactly!

          • I have seen many redesigns. You do not need to go with that gods awful design from the kelvin movies. You can update the design easily. We both agree TMP ship was a great example of doing this. I find Koerner’s design to be fantastic, but I have seen others.

            A good redesign, should update but honor what came before.

          • The Science Fiction Oracle

            Well said!

          • Harry Kane

            If there is one thing we agree on, its the kelvin movie era designs are awful. TMP Enterprise is perfection, bearing in mind there were variations, small differences externally and of course internally during different movies.

          • The sad thing is, the kelvin ship is salvageable. Its something with the proportions and configurations that is just off. I feel it it the neck and the pylons that really kills this design.

            TMP is near perfection, yeah no argument there. You could update the textures or use modern modeling and that ship still looks fantastic. I have seen folks at trekBBS that oddly hate the Koerner design. To me it is just fantastic, just such a near perfect homage.

          • Harry Kane

            Gabes model would have been the best bet i have seen but the new movies really cocked things up. Its no longer trek and is just a joke. All decent trek ended sadly with Star Trek Enterprise and what I thought was a great movie Star Trek Nemesis.

          • The Science Fiction Oracle

            Agreed. Star Trek Enterprise was where Star Trek starting taking a nosedive downhill.

          • Harry Kane

            From what I have seen and heard, Kurtzman and crew never and don’t even give a F*** about canon or the established design asthetics and norms, they moan about the fact oh enterprise limits is, er what is exactly limiting you? just your own talents I think, then why chose late ENT early TOS for your series, People always wanted a POST Nemesis Star Trek Series that was really good, with the Titan making appearances, exploration, proper combat, contining on evolving star trek and its story as STO has done.

          • The Science Fiction Oracle

            “From what I have seen and heard, Kurtzman and crew never and don’t even give a F*** about canon or the established design asthetics and norms”

            That sort of thinking by Drexler and Berman got us the NX-01.

          • Harry Kane

            No, NX was designed to be a predecessor. And alot of thought went in. Internally and externally, Its Discovery designs and asthetics which are messing everything up. NX respected cannon, Discovery and Shenzou and even what we have seen of the Klingons does not one bit. Look the designs we should be seeing are these Have a look at the Bonaventure, where is it in Discovery, this ship should be around aswell as its asthetic, The last of the NX Refit class should also be in service with the newer TOS, early 23rd century design asthetics starting to mould over onto the ship, you can see the cage “look” in the NX Refit and what eventually happans is the ENT asthetic disappears and you have this smooth bigger looking starship design rather than the less luxurious more raw design of ENT. You cannot get rid of the TOS design, its the discovery designs that must be reworked, only by having TOS can you have TMP designs, which then mould and become TNG and the more modern looking starships. To recap NX-Refit look, (Is what the discovery asthetics should be) and at the end of Discovery we get the corrected TOS asthetic and get to see the launch of NCC 1701. See the Comparasion shot of the NX Refit to see how it will become a connie in the design terms. Connie is bigger more advanced and only small scale mods would be needed, the interior I would admit would need updating but needs to be a pre TMP look and after ENT look, it is possible but no one had the balls to do it right. https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/09b65c6e204a9d1bcdf22a739284d0af52f5faaa0010931f8b554f7f8bad8406.jpg https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/e599d3f694b5458b72c9c5b7aec9062d4ad37a818d4e7c89b93f3e57eae48315.jpg https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/1f1533c9047442c2c420aa01864c507e7e73a2ea09014c933390fd577f41c5bd.jpg

          • 1: No way the NX, even that silly non canon image you used came before the connie. Placed nesr each other I am at a lose as how anyone does not see the glarring issues

            2: Gods that refit, which is not a refit at all, makes no fresking sense

          • The Science Fiction Oracle

            “1: No way the NX, even that silly non canon image you used came before the connie. Placed nesr each other I am at a lose as how anyone does not see the glarring issues”

            Yea, it’s completely obvious.

          • I just do not understand how people are claiming this is not fact. Its so easy to spot, so easy to watch the flow of form. But I think they simply do not want to see it.

            I had a guy on another thread telling me the 1960’s bridge looked more modern than the ENT bridge, it looked more advanced. I just stopped, I am not sure how to respond to anyone who things the TOs bridges looks more advanced than the ENT bridge. I get not liking ENT, but come on the TOS bridge is 1960’s dated!

          • M33

            LOL
            That was me. But my point was how the Okudas and others who worked on those epsidoes felt it actually seemed more modern than they thought it would.
            Hey, I’m no designer… so my opinion is meaningless, really.

          • Harry Kane

            “Silly”????? how on earth can you say that, whats silly about it,

            What makes it not a refit? The next thing you’ll be saying is the TMP Enterprise was not a refit.

          • 1: it looks bad, and it messes with the design flow
            2: Its a clear tack on that looks like it
            3: It makes no sense. You now have two power cores, two defectors and a massive structural weakspot that will cause massive issues. It logically makes no sense. You could design a MK II version from the docks like this ( why I do not know) but you could not rebuild theme this way without more issues than it fixes

            4: Yeah, we all know the “Refit” in TMP was just a thin excuse to change ships. You do not refit a class of ships in this way. They replace the nacelles, the pylons, the secondary hull and the saucer . It is longer, taller, has more decks , has extra lifts, wider halls and is nothing like the TOS class in any way.

            And after all that work, at a cost you could have built a brand new ship, you get a grand total of 6 years before you retire and decommission it. This makes zero sense even in star trek.

          • M33

            It was however a brilliant way to honor the look of the TV series before it as a legitimate connection to the movie.

          • The Science Fiction Oracle

            The NX-01 was a design created by Berman and Drexler who chose, for no good reason, to ignore previous starship design history and canon, and develop their own “new” design for the NX-01, which, unfortunately, looks much more like an early TNG ship than and a predecessor TOS ship.

            It’s the worst starship design ever on Trek.

      • Thomas Elkins

        “If we see a connie, it should be redesigned.”

        Every fiber of my being says absolutely NOT! Matt Jefferies’ design is timeless. I never understood why people think the NX-01 looks more advanced than the 1701. Having a more detailed or “busier” design doesn’t make it more advanced. Technology is supposed to streamline as it advances and when seeing the NX and 1701 side by side, the 1701 looks streamlined. https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/6c62418798a2c0caf6adfbe86c2ad08822dce00e5492196052f97a16e41f27dc.jpg

        • Sorry man, its not timeless. Its dated and looks out of place in the current line up. It is design wise, older than the NX and it looks it. Its the shapes, the forums not the texture that is the issue.

          GR agreed as he had the whole thing redesigned in 79.

          • Thomas Elkins

            I disagree 1000%. And Gene Roddenberry didn’t erase the TOS era since those designs were still seen in TNG.

          • ENT did. It no longer fits. Design wise its a model T next to the corvette of the NX styling and forms. You can rip off the textures of the ships and they still look decades if not centuries newer than the TOS design.

            The TOS design IS the model T of trek ships. Its the ship all others are based off of one way or another and that can not be hidden. It looks older, looks more simplistic and antiquated, because it is.

          • Thomas Elkins
          • And it looks old and outdated next to the sleek and much more modern NX. It creams “dated Sunday driver” next to a modern car.

            You are not getting this. The NX killed it. The NX is more advanced looking and is in fact more modern style wise than the 1966 design. It looks like what it is, every shape it has screams “Older than the NX”. Its every form is not sleek, its not more advanced, its dated and screams its decade.

            You put the NX next to the TMP redesign however, it fits, if you update the TMP textures. Its simply a design thing man, the shapes and forms are what they are.

            Once the NX was designed how it is, the TOS shapes no longer fit. No one who is honest about it and not clouded by fandom will say the NX is not a more modern design, because it simply is.

          • Thomas Elkins

            “And it looks old and outdated next to the sleek and much more modern NX.”

            No it doesn’t. Having a more detailed or “busier” design doesn’t make it more advanced.

          • Yeah it does. You are once more trying to defend with texture. I am talking about the shapes. You slap the TOS texture on the NX and its still more advanced. Its the forms, the shapes, the stylings. Those are the issue.

            The TOS connie had a place before the NX erased it. It made sense design wise from the Round hull Daedalus class. Because the design forms flowed and made sense.

            However, they do not from the more advanced NX to the less advanced Connie. It simply does not fit. It would be like claiming you designed a Model T or a Model A after a stingray. The forms are that glaring.

          • Thomas Elkins

            “I am talking about the shapes. You slap the TOS texture on the NX and its still more advanced. Its the forms, the shapes, the stylings.”

            And what exactly do you consider “more advanced” about the NX-01’s shape? It still uses a saucer like the 1701 and the NX-01’s tube shaped nacelles share plenty of similarities with the 1701’s design. What exactly do you consider “modern” shapes?

            https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/0b027b82efb96819989ca826340edb1bf2f2c28e657d10b88f34001ea1f8b18d.jpg

          • Man its basic design. Yeah that necell is more advanced, its not as simple. That is like a modern care next to the basic beaten shapes of a 1920’s ride. Its every single part of the TOS ship screams 1960 and antiquated. If you refuse to see that, nothing I say can every explain it to you.

          • Thomas Elkins

            “Yeah that necell is more advanced, its not as simple.”

            THIS is what I mean when I say having a more detailed design doesn’t make it more advanced. I’m not talking about “texture” I’m talking about the extra details added to the shape. The whole point of streamlining something is “To improve the efficiency of, often by simplification”. Streamlining smooths an object out and doesn’t over complicate the design. It’s supposed to be smooth and simple. Adding extra detail to make it busier in no way makes it more advanced compared to something purposely designed to be smooth and simplified.

          • Yeah man, design wise it does in fact in this case. The TOS ship is not streamlined, its simple. Look at the Kelvin Enterprise, that is streamlined, that is the ‘Ipod” design people keep falsely calling the TOS connie. The Connie is a 1960’s take on that and looks 1960’s. Its just basic and simple and not as you want to call it.

            There is simple and elegant and simple and dated. The TOS ship is dated, so very, very dated and antiquated.

          • Thomas Elkins

            “The TOS ship is not streamlined, its simple.”

            You do realize that’s what streamlining is right?

          • Yes, its not being simplistic. You are confusing the two and design wise they are not the same.

            This is simple, it has a simple shape and very basic form, like the TOS connie.
            https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/5ffd6a1aecd5f27898ececbd7e1e1e41660ec8f1455246b531787c4dc2dde29f.jpg

            However, not even you would call that streamlined.

          • M33

            So, are you saying that technological advances for all things by nature are going to look busier than their predecessors?
            I am also curious to hear how you divide the line between “streamline” and “simple”.

          • Not busier, but the forms do get more complexes. Streamlining is smoothing those shapes out, making them less noticeable and less stuck out there. It is however, not simplistic.

            Case in point. Take a look at this Challanger
            https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/c53c8b6175d99c94f65da87e351f0647a5acffd5e79635ffb6b43af2ca848a77.jpg

            Notice how smooth the surface is?What you see is a streamlined design, but not a simplistic one. It is “busy” in areas, you see detail all over and it really stick out in some places, such as the grill and the Gas cap. But this would never be called simplistic.

            And here we have a 1920 dodge rambler
            https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/5ce79838a5215d02fd8c5ed219e30e7e2deee75d4d539a9c7415c26873bd31ac.jpg

            It is also smooth, but not from streamlining. Its simplistic, you are not seeing surfaces smoothed out to make it sleeker, you are seeing basic shapes with nothing added.

            This is the issue with the TOS connie. Its a very, very basic shape and then they smoothed it out, which does not make it looked streamlined, it makes it looks archaic and simplistic.

          • TUP

            The bridge cap sticking out of the top is a great example. The shape of it is the same as every rounded retro-future design from the 60’s. If you created a “world of tomorrow” through the lend of the 50’s or 60’s it would have that simple, smooth, rounded edge shape.

          • Yep, it is that kinda stuff thst just glarringly sticks out.

          • Thomas Elkins
          • The Science Fiction Oracle
          • Heh, if that was the case they would fit. Those two subs do look like they belong in the same setting, just one a 100 years later.

            The issue is however, the TOS design does not look like it comes after the NX. I think you agree with that even if you dislike the NX.

          • The Science Fiction Oracle

            “The issue is however, the TOS design does not look like it comes after the NX. I think you agree with that even if you dislike the NX”

            Yes, I do, in general. The Nacelles would be my one exception.

          • LOL, I disagree with that exception. But I get ya.

          • M33

            LOL

            Still is a cool looking sub!
            Bigger on the inside, too!

          • Thomas Elkins

            http://www.thefreedictionary.com/streamline

            “To improve the efficiency of, often by SIMPLIFICATION”

            “to alter so as to make more efficient or SIMPLE.”

            There really isn’t any point in continuing this discussion if you can’t understand the definition of streamline or the concept of streamlining. Your own example actually disproves your point. You streamline an object by smoothing it out so that it creates less resistance to fluid flow. The number pad on that phone for example has individual keys that protrude from the flat surface. If you were to streamline that phone, you would flatten the buttons so that they no longer protrude from the surface. They would be flush with the plastic, creating a smooth surface. Like the touchscreen on a modern smart phone. It’s about being smooth, efficient, simple.

            When you take a close look at the NX-01’s nacelle, you can see it is similar to the 1701. However, you can see the individual hull plates on the NX-01 and where they bolt on to the ship. It might look like it’s more “detailed” compared to the flat, smooth surface of the 1701’s nacelle, but that doesn’t make it more advanced or efficient.

          • I knew a while ago you did not understand design man. I understand streamlining, you do not. You have latched onto “simple” but that is not what it means. You are mixing simple with simplistic and old and simplistic with streamlined.

            If something is too simple, its not considered streamlined, its considered basic and simplistic. You are simply not getting this.

            On the Nacells, yes we see a primitive and overly simplistic design and a advanced nacell. The issues is the primitive one is the TOS design. The Hull plates are texture, not design form. You can put the NX texture on the TOS connie( people have) and the connie still looks older and more primative.

            You are simply never gonna allow yourself to understand this,

          • Thomas Elkins
          • Yep how I feel as well man. Its all good, we do not agree. No biggy.

          • Renan Cariolando Feitosa

            totally agreed

          • I really do not understand how folks do not see this.

          • The Science Fiction Oracle

            I am kind of agreeing with you regarding the nacelle here. Worst nacelle design ever. Tip looks like a blood-filled zit ready to explode. The tube looks like 19th century iron works. Yes, the nacelle looks primitive compared to the connies.

          • You just dislike the NX 😀

            If the connie had sleek nacells I could agree. But to me they are not sleek, they are simplstic. From a design standpoint, I also like the deeper red and not the really pale colors from TOS. I think going bold colors TMP forward was a great idea.

          • TUP

            It really does look out of place next to the NX. It was cool seeing it on screen again. But come on…

          • The Science Fiction Oracle

            The NX looks like it was assembled with space junk from TNG ships. So in that respect is does look slightly more advanced than the connie.

          • I disagree on it looking like Junk. The design forms are pretty good, but everyone has their own likes and dislikes.

            The issue is, once they put 90 years before the TOS connie, they killed the TOS connie design. It just no longer fits, You can see a flow from the NX to the TMP design (Which we all know is not the same ship)

            The TOS ship has been the odd duck for a long, long time. You see everything flow from TMP ship and not really from the TOS design. The basic shape is from the TOS ship, but that is it.

          • M33

            One of my favorite shots! And I agree, the Constitution Class looks beautiful!

          • Harry Kane

            beautiful, end I agree, Connie does look more advanced than the NX.

          • The Science Fiction Oracle

            My toaster looks more advanced than the NX.

            The NX should never have existed — huge canon force-fit by Berman that was completely unnecessary. And it’s butt-ugly to boot.

          • The Science Fiction Oracle

            “ENT did.”

            Exactly. That should be a warning to DSC. Enterprise is a “how to” book on making shitty Star Trek. I don’t consider it Prime Universe even.

          • TUP

            Absolutely. it is a product of the retro-future 60’s style. Which was cool. And the basis for the majority of Star Fleet ships, which is great. Even the TMP version looked far better than the mere 10 years or whatever would have indicated as having passed in universe.

            I agree, they should re-design the ship. We’re not talking a 6 nacelled monstrosity. But THAT ship, updated to the NEW style sense that is evidence in Franklin, NX01, Kelvin and Discovery/Shenzhou.

          • It was 3 or 4 years in setting.

          • The Science Fiction Oracle

            Agreed. As I said above, something approaching the look the refit Enterprise, not TOS ship, which, though we all love, was a product of TV budgets. Rodenberry’s TMP version should be the standard for bringing in a connie to DSC.

        • M33

          Beautiful image, BTW.

          Could look at that all day…

          • Thomas Elkins

            Thanks, I took that screen shot a few years ago using Star Trek: Bridge Commander.

      • MichaelMeir-Wright

        Oh my goodness, you folks will argue over anything won’t you?

      • The Science Fiction Oracle

        Yes, but something approaching the look the refit Enterprise, not TOS ship, which, though we all love, was a product of TV budgets. Rodenberry’s TMP version should be the standard for bringing in a connie.

        • Totally agree. TMP is , design wise, just a fantastic base. You can see it reflected in many other designs and honestly it fits from NX to later ship design because they all follow similar design ques.

    • The Chadwick

      When DS9 first came out (until the uniforms were beginning wider spread adoption via Generations) I just assumed that space stations and starbases had a different uniform than starships.

      • Thomas Elkins

        That’s what I thought too until Generations mixed things up and Voyager ran with it.

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  • Johnny Five

    So basically, Saru has Spidey-Sense. 🙂

    • Which is kinda neat. I wanna know more about his race really

  • Nice set of pics

  • pittrek

    “This video is not available” – did they take it down for some reason? Or did the geo-blocking message change?

  • Harry Kane

    That ship is not Klingon one bit, load of since when did klingons have an islamic feel. And since when did they not look like proper klingons???

    • TUP

      I dont know. If only there was a way to find out. Too bad there isnt a show coming up that may or may not explain it. 😉

    • All in how old the style is. You guys forget how long the Klingons have been around and in space. The House we see is one who uses archaic designs, they are like the Society for Creative Anachronism from what I can gather. They are running around in uniforms, armor and with ships styled for the Klingon middle ages ( or when ever kahless was around).

  • GhostLoveScore

    Why are they blocking it for outside of US? We can watch it anyway via US server proxy.

    • CBS does that really stupid region locking. It makes no sense and I have no clue why they do that.

  • The Science Fiction Oracle

    Very cool!

    Trekcore, do you know if that music if part of the Discovery score?

  • The Chadwick

    I would really like to know the reason why they abandoned the primary colour uniforms and went with all blue. Would have loved to have seen updated tri colour but I have no problem with these blue uniforms. Akin to Enterprise and very sharp.

    • M33

      Apparently, from what I’ve read, it was Moonves decision to change the uniform style.

      • Could have been too close to Kelvin. They would want to make sure you can’t link the two. Although some incorrectly think they look the same, the studio has went out of its way to make sure it does not look Kelvin.

        • M33

          My thoughts as well.

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  • tandy299

    There are numerous ways to look at designs. I am an engineer, and yes, the TOS design is simplistic, but here’s what Gene and his staff did back then: they partnered with universities like UCLA, and private companies, and asked them for examples of technology that was on the forefront of research and development. That’s how we were privileged to see things like Spock holding a floppy disk years before they were released, marketed and became ubiquitous in our society. Likewise, the communicator, which was essentially a (Motorola?) flip phone. I personally liked the Excelsior’s design, mainly because it was unique in “Trekville”. Yes, it was NOT streamlined, and had a huge underbelly, but if it were only used in space where air resistance is negligible, it really wouldn’t matter much as far as speed is concerned. But it might be a hindrance in a close battle, due to it’s extra inertial mass slowing changes in direction and momentum. The idea I believe that the designers had in mind was to make it Grand in scale, to go along with it’s incredible hyperdrive warp design and abilities. If you really want to talk about streamlining, consider DS9’s battle cruiser, the Defiant, which is small but exceedingly powerful.

  • tandy299

    Also, does anyone know what ship is being destroyed in the latest trailer? I see the letters EU, and I’m thinkong it might be called the Europa?

  • tandy299

    There are numerous ways to look at designs. I am an engineer, and yes, the TOS design is simplistic, but here’s what Gene and his staff did back then: they partnered with universities like UCLA, and private companies, and asked them for examples of technology that was on the forefront of research and development. That’s how we were privileged to see things like Spock holding a floppy disk years before they were released, marketed and became ubiquitous in our society. Likewise, the communicator, which was essentially a (Motorola?) flip phone. I personally liked the Excelsior’s design, mainly because it was unique in “Trekville”. Yes, it was NOT streamlined, and had a huge underbelly, but if it were only used in space where air resistance is negligible, it really wouldn’t matter much as far as speed is concerned. But it might be a hindrance in a close battle, due to it’s extra inertia slowing changes in direction and momentum. The idea I believe that the designers had in mind was to make it Grand in scale, to go along with it’s incredible hyperdrive warp design and abilities. If you really want to talk about streamlining, consider DS9’s battle cruiser, the