As Star Trek: The Next Generation prepares to boldly go into its second season on Blu-Ray, behind-the-scenes CBS Digital is busy working away on finalizing work for the third season. FX Guide magazine – one of the biggest VFX-centered sites – recently spoke to Craig Weiss, Director at CBS Digital about the company’s history and their current efforts to remaster Star Trek: The Next Generation in high definition. You can watch their piece over at FX Guide. The interview gives a very nice insight into the technical elements of the remastering and the kit at CBS Digital’s disposal, including their whopping 600 Terabytes of SAN-storage used to store and share elements the team are working on.

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Eagled-eyed viewers will spot a few shots (stills above) where CBS-Digital appear to be working on the fourth season (episodes “Reunion” and “In Theory“). It’s important to clarify that while CBS-Digital are indeed working on the conform for Season 4, the visual effects portion is being done by another house (however we can confirm that Season 2 post-house HTV are not involved). Season 3 – as we’ve mentioned previously – is being handled fully in-house at CBS-Digital.

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  • Esmeralda

    That is a good news. No more HTV-I.

  • MattR

    Well, that’s interesting that HTV isn’t working on Season 4.

  • New Horizon

    Thank GOD HTV isn’t working on Season 4, but then who IS working on Season 4 and will their work match the style and quality of CBS-Digital? I’m getting pretty annoyed with how this project is being handled. I’ll wait until I see some actual results, but I sincerely hope the effects work in Season 4 is not the mess Season 2 turned into. Hopefully this outsourced effects house will work VERY closely with CBS to ensure the styles match.

    • hypnotoad72

      +1

  • Corbin J

    Wow! Super exciting stuff.

  • M. Wright

    So now the question is, what FX house is doing Season 4?

    • New Horizon

      Hopefully one that works closely with CBS and one that actually has the talent to pull off the quality of Season 1.

    • Chris Jay

      That can’t be divulged at this time.

    • M. Wright

      Total pie in the sky, but if we’re really lucky maybe they got Gary Hutzel’s team (which also has Doug Drexler and Adam Lebowitz from the Trek franchise) to do the VFX.

    • Stephen

      Isn’t Dan Curry on the HTV team? I’m surprised he let this pass if he is.

  • Quinn

    I can’t imagine that CBS wants to repeat the outcry that came with the Season 2 VFX stills; I’m sure (at least, I hope) that they’re taking a tighter hold on whoever is working on Season 4 to bring them closer to a CBS-D-style VFX package.

  • AD

    Small correction: Should be SAN storage, not sand-storage…

    • Ashley Williams

      I have to admit though that sand storage would be really great. Need more storage? Just poor some more in your barrel.

    • trekcore

      Thanks for the correction!

  • James

    So is CBS still sticking with the 2/3/2 release schedule? I hope CBS-D has full authority over the outsourced effects work.

    • Mike C.

      Why not just let them do it all? Job security for a longer period of time for those working…

    • New Horizon

      I’m EXTREMELY disappointed in CBS for insisting on this rushed release schedule. For heavens sake, give them another year and allow them to finish all the seasons by themselves. Please! You’ll get your money back. Do the project once and do it right…stop rushing and things will turn out much better.

  • Chris Jay

    I loved this interview, very insightful.

  • MalcolmTucker

    Pardon my ignorance but whats the conform?

  • Guest

    Can someone clarify for me what Conform means in terms of restoring/remastering? Thanks!

  • $12900556

    I’m glad HTV isn’t working on season 4. After last night’s screening, I’m not getting this set because of the picture quality. There’s so much other stuff going into season 2, but there is just no wow factor that there was in Season 1.

  • Matt_Cardiff_UK

    About 10 minutes in, most of my questions about what went wrong with Season 2 start to get answered, and why Season 1 was so well done. What a fantastic interview. Now I appreciate why TNG will not be in widescreen. No biggie. I still want to see more 16:9 promo shots though.

  • Sky

    I think it would be good if the other new house would do everything BUT the special effects! I think even HTV could handle the live action stuff well! Than CBS can do only the fx and do it VERY RELAXED and carefully!!

    • Matt_Cardiff_UK

      Agreed! Season 2’s live action stuff looks a-okay to me. 🙂

      • hypnotoad72

        Some episodes looked soft, but time will ultimately tell…

        • Matt_Cardiff_UK

          Agreed – they are a bit – but I don’t think we can blame HTV for that.

  • will

    In the screening last night, I noticed the wrinkle/waviness in the front underneath side of the Saucer again. From reading posts/comments, I thought that was just Season 1 VFX mistake. maybe not.

    • Chris Jay

      Can you show me the shot you mean?

      • MalcolmTucker

        I think this is what Will means, I just assumed it was a physical defect on the 6 foot model

        http://tng.trekcore.com/hd/albums/1×03/nakednow_hd_000.jpg

        • Chris Jay

          It could be the model, since the “waves” move with the model, not against the model as if it were the film…

          • Corran

            From what I understand the model got clipped a couple of times by the motion control camera when they were pushing to get as close as they could for some passes, this is probably a result of one of those incidents

        • Ashley Williams

          this defect was present in season 1 as well. The model is not perfect and this is the proof.

        • archer923

          This shot is used in nearly every episode. Including the movie. So this error isn’t gonna go away.

  • Corran

    No HTV-I = Hi V…. um T.

  • Drunk Garak

    There’s been a lot of negativity and knee-jerk reactions on this site to the season 2 VFX. The missteps and battering the HTV crew took over season 2 are pretty surprising. With a number of Trek FX veterans on their team, it sounded like a dream team for remastering. I think folks need to keep things in perspective, an occasional lackluster FX shot isn’t a strong enough reason on its own not to buy to the set. After all, the live action footage looks great and that’s 95% of an episode. If there’s a reason not to buy the set it has more to do with season 2 not being a particularly great year of TNG (except for a few standout episodes). Does anyone actually consider seasons 1 and 2 to be great seasons? I think Robert Meyer Burnett’s documentaries and the excellent bonus features are carrying above their weight in making the first two seasons attractive products to a lot of people. I’m sure CBS realizes that.

    Honestly, I’m not so upset with having a VFX house like HTV learning and ironing out their kinks on season 2 if it means they would have been 100% for the better seasons to come.

    • Chris Jay

      Most of the FX shots in Season 2 are pretty much sub-par what they were in Season 1… granted I said most, as some FX shots in S2 look great, but most didn’t even come close to what CBS-D did for Season 1 and the quality I’ve seen in Season 3…

    • Matt_Cardiff_UK

      I agree – I’ve tried not to bash on HTV too much. Some of the polished effects in S2 are pretty sparky. The live action colours are vivid and true – and I don’t think many people will be upset with ‘Q Who’. I’ve never mentioned the sound – in 5.1 it all sounds pretty good too. I’m happy with S2 – just not overwhelmed with the gloriousness of every scene as with S1.

    • New Horizon

      ” I think folks need to keep things in perspective, an occasional
      lackluster FX shot isn’t a strong enough reason on its own not to buy to
      the set. ”

      I respect your opinion, but I believe it should be enough to warrant not buying Season 2. It’s our money after all. The final results and reports people are giving from the showing last night are just a bit more than occasionally lackluster. The work is downright sloppy. The quality of the work in the Season 3 trailer blew everything many folks had just seen at the event last night out of the water.

      Glad to hear you’re not upset with a VFX house “learning their trade” while on the job with a high profile release, but I’m certainly not…and I’m not going to pay for their “schooling” either.

      Seriously, if I turned in work like that with my graphic design job I would be unemployed VERY quickly, but I can’t afford to be unemployed with a 12 month old child to clothe and feed, so I do my best work…and that often means late nights but in the end, I am proud to have my name on the final product. If I were CBS, I would be mortified to have my label associated with Season 2. It reflects very poorly on them.

      • hypnotoad72

        Absolutely true.

        A graphic design instructor I had a couple years back rammed down our throats time and again about doing things right, with quality, since a first impression in a visual medium is pretty much the only chance one gets.

        Your rebuttal is far more solid.

        I don’t mind students getting a little financial help, but definitely not OTJ training for something as high profile as Trek. There are a LOT of shows that could be worked on, with redoing scans as needed, saving a copy, and moving forward with restoration and other procedures. Heck, I could do a better job with noise reduction, and how those episodes were looking THAT soft and undefined when they got out the door truly is appalling.

    • Bryce

      With respect, I saw the screening. It’s not just FX shots. There just wasn’t a lack of consistency. Blurry shots and composites were too obvious. I’m buying it but it’s not something you want floating around if this is your masterpiece.

    • Esmeralda

      I disagree. All seasons of star trek ( any series ) deserves the same quality treatment.
      Fans are angry on HTV-I because their job on S2 is awful. VFX scenes are badly made.

      For such a popular and expensive project that’s a shame.

      If something is good, fans will praise it.

      It is enough to say.

      Comments on S1 of TNG-R where almost all positive.

      Comments on S2 of TNG-R are almost all negative.

      You do not want to say that the majority is stupid and blind?

      • hypnotoad72

        I prefer reasoned criticism than outright negativity, but most of your points are valid.

        And I don’t know all the issues HTV had to endure, but if I were management, I would have kept a close eye early on and if problems crept up I’d have shifted tactics sooner, even if there was a cost. This non-action might cost CBS more money in the end. In one form or another. And maybe there’s a reason why CBS had no choice but to put out season 2 as it stands…

    • hypnotoad72

      This set will look by and large far better, apart from certain scenes. The pros outweigh the cons, and you raise valid points, but I can understand peoples’ frustrations. Especially the season 2 ep with the horribly fuzzy Enterprise, when it’s the same shot from the crystal clear and gorgeously pristine “The Arsenal of Freedom”. To see how it was redone for season 2 was horribly jarring. That scene does NOT represent all of the season, but if it had then every kneejerk action would be more than justified.

      Season 2 had ups and downs, but half of it is pretty top notch. Contagion, Q Who, Measure of a Man, Peak Performance, Time Squared are all solid entries to this season, and I’d rewatch The Schizoid Man, Loud as a Whisper, and even the sheer tackiness of The Outrageous Okona over most of season 6…

  • SpaceDwarf

    Still hell-bent on outsourcing? Color me sceptical.

  • Chris Freeman

    I saw a blurry shuttlecraft and a horizontally squished Enterprise at the screening. Just totally unprofessional work. I also saw some inconsistent grainy footage (the pan shot where Worf shoots the Borg in Engineering and the Borg’s close up a few seconds later), but I’ll give them the benefit of the doubt and say that was some sort of zoom-in on the frame or pan-and-scan or different film stock. Also.. and this REALLY sends me into nerd rage – Season 1 used quotes in the episode title cards and season 2 used INCH MARKS!!! AAARRGHH!!! I think the DVDs all have inch marks, but they are blurry so it’s hard to tell. It’s just an example of the lack of attention to detail and consistency. The titles really should be in quotes and if you start doing that on the Season 1 Blu-Ray, you need to do it for all seven seasons. What were the Okudas overseeing while they were there?

    • hypnotoad72

      To be fair, the graininess can depend on film stock and speed. Season 2, on DVD, does show grain (e.g. “Contagion” when Data, Picard, and Worf are in the Ikonia teleport room).

      Not just that, depending on zoom mechanisms used, pan and scan, some quality will be uneven. Just like in season 1.

      If the goal is to make the remastering look like the SD originals, then somebody’s using the wrong font for the titles. How could anyone not notice, much less not get a copy of the font being used for season 2’s processing?!

  • Chris Freeman

    That FX Guide video was awesome. I didn’t follow all the industry jargon, but it wasn’t made for me to. It was great seeing the screenshots of them working on the effects and the descriptions of how much work goes into this. I can’t believe they set up that entire infrastructure and workflow and then trusted anyone else to be able to replicate their work.

  • Pablo

    I think this shot says it all about S2. Seriously – CBS want me to pay 70 EUROS for this???

    http://mediacdn.disqus.com/uploads/mediaembed/images/392/3853/original.jpg

    • Picard452

      …..there are no words. 🙁

    • pittrek

      Yikes

    • Alex Webb

      Clearly they’re trying to add new story elements – an exciting adventure where the front of the saucer section falls off because it fainted at the sight of the low-res planet, and the ship’s running lights detatch themselves out of fright!

      ….yeah, I got nothing. Dear god that looks hideous.

      • Pablo

        With all the money Star Trek fans have poured into this franchise over the years you would think they wouldnt insult us by charging 70 euros for the set when this is what we will be getting!!

        • hypnotoad72

          Better 70 then 120, but these episodes have to be re-edited from scratch thanks to cost-cutting methods used in the 1980s.

          Funny how that works; they cut costs back then, and only end up having to spend a ton more money years later because everybody was so antsy about cutting costs back then!

          And that was 25 years ago; the cost-cutting fervor is at an all time high nowadays…

          What will happen 25 years from now… there’s fun thought…

          • Ashley Williams

            Since everything is digital today, there is no room for improvement. Season 4 of enterprise is locked in at 1080p for all time. The other 3 seasons shot on film could end up in ultra-def (4K) if they really wanted to do it.

          • Matt_Cardiff_UK

            TNG will be in 3D – in a holodeck – and we’ll able to complain about how inaccurate the holographic creation is compared to the remastered blu rays that we all bought a quarter of a century ago….”HTV screwed up Guinan’s hat and Worf is half a foot shorter….arrrrgggg” 😉

    • Esmeralda

      I agree. That planet and that screenshot in general is awful.
      CBS-D needs remaster remastered VFX scenes in S2.

      • Pablo

        I just cancelled my pre-order. I’m going to wait until I see some fan feedback on the set before purchasing. With shots like the one above (amongst others) floating around the net, I just cant justify spending that much money on something that hasnt even been done properly!!!!!!!!!!!

        • Esmeralda

          I will also skip Season 2.

          And it is a shame, because I wanted to buy all seasons. 🙁

          But I will not spend my money on this, when it is so badly made.

          • Matt_Cardiff_UK

            Can I just say – I appreciate that my posting of pictures from S2 has upset people because of the problems I’ve found, but you’ll notice I’ve posted some very good stuff too. Please buy S2 as I did (albeit cheating and getting it early). At the end of the day – I’m a nerd, and I would pick up on things like this. But seriously – that example I posted was like 5 frames at the end of an episode that wasn’t all that good in my opinion. It’s no big loss – check my pictures from ‘Q Who’ – S2 is worth the money…..just.

          • Pablo

            Where are your pictures from ‘Q Who’?

          • Matt_Cardiff_UK

            They’re in the S2 review thread. 🙂

          • Pablo

            Thanks, I found em’. When it looks good, it looks pretty good. But some of the shots are awful. Those stills that Trekcore posted last week of the enterprise firing on the Cube, do they look any better in motion? cause the enterprise in the stills Trekcore posted looked awful.

          • Matt_Cardiff_UK

            I always used to joke that Worf was a crap shot because it took him three shots to disable the tractor beam.

            I wish everyone would remember that TNG wasn’t remastered just for the effects to be polished up (although of course that’s what we want) but to present the show in HD. Believe me – S2 never looked better. Here’s some more shots from ‘Q Who’ – the detail in the cube and live action scenes is amazing. It didn’t need ‘polishing’ – it just needed the HD transfer. And that’s what we got…it’s just a shame so much of the rest of the season was very poorly done – and yes – all the planets look totally crap in my opinion this season. Not one iota of the technical and artistic flair that we were treated to in S1.

          • hypnotoad72

            Thanks for posting those pics.

            The Enterprise-D in front of the Borg cube (2nd row, 3rd image) looks SPECTACULAR. Detail, color, you name it – that is a gorgeous, perfectly recreated piece.

            Grain reduction looks very good overall – I’ve seen worse in “The Dauphin”…

            Granted, the first pic (1st row, 1st image) has the Borg cube a tad bright, but more importantly the Enterprise 2′ model has a pure cyan glow for the nacelles. The color is typically a more distinct blue. As the picture I fawned over above exemplifies. I don’t think the cyan glow is due to problems with the original film; I’d have to see the original SD version. But one can easily see the deeper blue glow reflecting off the ship’s hull, yet the full glow is cyan. The bussard collectors being a purplish-red also proves the color timing during restoration is quite clearly wrong. The inaccurate color timing sticks out far worse than Superman’s outfit for the Blu-Ray releases of Superman III and Superman IV (“The man of Teal” being the nickname accorded that set, apparently)…

          • Matt_Cardiff_UK

            Hypnotoad72 – I just read the S2 reviews on Amazon, and noticed a striking similarity between the review, and your comments above, as well as references to that first shot I posted where the saucer section is missing from the edge of the frame lol!

            Oh and yeah – the Man of Teal – I agree with you there – but then Superman IV should never, ever have been made.

          • Pablo

            Thanks for the extra stills Matt. Besides that one shot where the enterprise disappears before it reaches the edge of the screen, have you come accross any other major blunders?

          • Matt_Cardiff_UK

            Hi Pablo, I very quickly skipped through the episodes rather than watching them all intently, to get an idea of the quality of the ‘restoration’. I have picked up on other issues like the one shot I found – but not had time to take screen shots and post them. I complained heavily about the ‘planet’ that doesn’t revolve or have any detail (looks more like a purple blob on a single animation cell, that’s been just chucked on any old star background). In fact – nothing in the season, effects wise, is any good (compared to S1). I am so annoyed with HTV, and glad that they are seemingly struck from the project. What a wasted opportunity.

          • hypnotoad72

            Some of it is due to the cheap 2′ model being used during filming in 1989…

            In motion, the imagery won’t look nearly as bad.

          • New Horizon

            No thanks Matt. I’m still not buying.

          • hypnotoad72

            I hope CBS keeps a closer eye on the folks they’re outsourcing the work to this time. HTV’s efforts are really hit-or-miss, and while some images look great (with only the source material having the issues), other restored scenes look horrible.

            Someone else mentioned that “Q Who”, for the Borg/Enterprise close-ups, had the same starfield despite the camera angles. I recall one of the screenshots having very big and fuzzy stars as well. Amazingly, the original footage of the saucer being carved remains (or if they redid the f/x they did a A+ job for that bit, despite other issues elsewhere)…

            I might splurge for $50, but I’m highly temped to cancel my order. I can’t reward this huge step backwards in quality and care.

          • Matt_Cardiff_UK

            The effects are the same…except that the circular glow on the top of the hull that was sliced into lasts longer before ‘cooling off’…nice touch.

          • hypnotoad72

            Surprisingly, I found a review for season 2 (despite it not being out yet):

            http://www.blu-ray.com/movies/Star-Trek-The-Next-Generation-Season-2-Blu-ray/44210/

            They seem much happy with the video quality, even if they (coyly) mention issues with effects shots, which includes the following excerpt:

            “…Characters and objects appearing in front of effects shots — such as windows showing a star field or the ship at warp speed…”
            Well, there’s a screencap or two just waiting to be leaked…

          • Chris Freeman

            You missed the part of that sentence that was the main point though. It says characters and objects “go soft” when they are in front of effects. This just means they have blurry edges. Kind of a shame since all those Behind The Scenes things bragged about how much better blue screen technology had gotten in 25 years.

        • falkan

          Same here. It was a tough decision that I mulled over in my head for a week. I had hoped to have the complete TNG blu-ray set after buying all releases, but I just can’t do S2. It’s just that bad.

          Having said that, I am still super excited for S3 and will pre-order at first chance, since CBS-D is handling it. Also, I’d definitely buy S2 at some future point if CBS-D were given the project to fix, but I have the feeling that the train has already left the station.

          It’s really too bad. I always found a lot to like in S2, even if it wasn’t the best season of Trek.

          • New Horizon

            Yup, if CBS does the right thing and allows CBS Digital to fix Season 2, I will happily buy it then.

    • Quinn

      That shot was composited correctly (using the original matte plates), but it looks like the framing for Season 2 was slightly wider than a normal 4:3 release, allowing for that “extra” space on the right.

      A normal 4:3 release would measure 1440×1080 (or 960×720 when scaled down). Screenshots from the Season 2 Blu-ray release are measuring 1456×1080 (or 976×720 scaled down), meaning they just weren’t cropped properly. That extends to every episode in the S2 set.

      So there you go; that’s the issue here.

      • Pablo

        So what youre saying is that the blu-ray wont have that little bit of extra space on the right? So the only problem remaining will be the lighting on the ship, the poor quality look of the ship itself and the low-res planet in the background?

        • Quinn

          No, the Blu-ray WILL have that extra space on the right, but it SHOULDN’T because it wasn’t framed and/or cropped correctly.

          • Pablo

            unbelieveable they expect us to fork out so much money for something that hasnt been done properly. Sorry CBS – you wont be getting my money for S2. what a joke

      • archer923

        The extra framing was always there. The incorrect 4:3 frame setup was what TV use to do. They took advantage of the “overscan” area on TV sets and didn’t bother making every shot fit to the edge. That’s what was being cut off. Since they went back to the raw neg. They can frame every shot to the full edge of 4:3. That extra space always existed. But not taken advantage of.

        What happend here is there’s a slight off, to the motion control edge limit. And it didn’t reach all the way. In this case, you need to move the ship layers over. Or slightly zoom up. Which they didn’t here… This happend in one shot for season 1. The probe with the frozen people.

        But they did fix the cut off, in the Time Square tunnel shot. Watch the trailers to the final episode. 4:3 is still gonna be 4:3 in the set. The 1456 res is just some goof incorrectly giving us the temp work framing. Like when they showed us the 16:9 reframing shots, for TV broadcasts. They need to swap between aspect ratio sizes, while working.

        • Chris Jay

          Which shot in “The Neutral Zone” which is the one with the frozen people, I didn’t see any issues like the picture shown by Pablo…

          I didn’t see a difference in the S2 trailers…

        • Justin Olson

          The final active picture area resolution for Season Two on Blu-ray is 1458 X 1080, or 1.35:1.

    • Thunderblade

      Oh. My. God. I will not buy this. Sorry.

    • hypnotoad72

      On the plus side, at least the font looks right… :-S

      Now I regret watching the season 1 feature on why they didn’t do 16:9, by showing the Enteprise disappear off the edge of the screen…

  • Sky

    Star Trek (TNG) always stood for groundbreaking effects, especially for a TV series! Because of the “veil” of course it looked dated more and more from some time on. CBS-D made it to just blast the veil of time away! Now it looks original and brand new AT THE SAME TIME. Really artistically!! It even can hold up – or even look better – than current shows, that’s really unbelievable if you think about it!! Now HTV just put everything together just “good enough” (or maybe not) to release it! All the magic in FX got lost!! CBS, you HAVE TO do it again and bring the magic back!!! Save this historic show for us!!

    • Pablo

      I couldnt agree more. The photo posted below was a dealbreaker for me. Its just NOT good enough

    • hypnotoad72

      I’ve seen enough of today’s shows to believe it that TNG holds up better!

      Season 1 did do more to set the bar than to “spoil” anyone. Especially as season 1 is more watchable now than it was in 1987! I had my heart set on season 2 and, so far, it is something of a letdown — but I don’t think it will be a disaster.

      If the price goes down to $59, or if they re-did all the work and gave a discount to those who bought early on via a proof of purchase, I’d be all smiles.

  • James

    Thanks! the fxguide piece was excellent. I especially enjoyed the explanation regarding why 16:9 was not suitable. Near the end of the video, the guy talks about the possibility of doing DS9 in the future. Man – I hope that happens 🙂

    • hypnotoad72

      Maybe CBS will hire HTV to be the exclusive shop for all of the restoration work for DS9 and Voyager… will people still want it then?

      • Esmeralda

        Nope.
        Voyager is my favorite star trek series. I want VOY in HD the most. But i will not buy any seasons of star trek, even my favorite Voyager if remastering is done by HTV-I.

      • trekcore

        It would seem unlikely HTV will be involved with future Star Trek work.

        • Matt_Cardiff_UK

          I would like to see an official statement from CBS concerning the decision not to involve HTV, and why. Maybe that will appease the understandably disgruntled masses (including me).

          • Corran

            I imagine if we get one it will be closer to the release of season 3, to
            alleviate any fears about the quality of that set. Behind closed door
            they probably cringe at the work done on Season 2 but they’re not going
            to come out and say it, and cost the project sales.

        • James

          According to HTV Illuminate’s website its list of credits include “STAR TREK: THE NEXT GENERATION (multiple seasons)” so unfortunately they maybe responsible for season 4 & 6.

          http://www.htvinc.com/content/content.php?content=Awards%20and%20Acknowledgments&subchoice=credit-list&subnav=about-htv&hx=2050

          • trekcore

            No. HTV did Season 2 and have contributed to a couple of other episodes, but they are not working on Season 4 or 6. We confirmed this with CBS.

          • James

            That’s good news. Did CBS state why? Was CBS disappointed with HTV’s effort or did CBS respond to the fan reaction?

  • $12900556

    Man seeing people say they are cancelling their pre-orders makes me wonder what I should do. If there was a way to get access to all the special features without buying the set, than I probably wouldn’t get this set either. Still, I really have been looking forward to all the special stuff, especially the interview with Diana Maulder, where paying the money might still be worth it.

    • archer923

      Then buy the set. The money is well spent. If you wanted the bonus features.

      • $12900556

        Yeah I’m getting the set. If there was one thing that lived up to the standards of Season 1 based on the screening it was the special stuff they showed. Actually, of all the things I liked about season 1’s set, it was the special features that were the biggest highlight.

    • hypnotoad72

      For $80, I’m hard-pressed to do it. The company didn’t put value in it, so why should I? Isn’t loyalty a two-way street? That was clearly the case for season 1, but season 2 has definitely had enough negative feedback to make me second-guess and worry…

      I do feel bad for CBS. The heart was in the right place, but this is an example of where outsourcing doesn’t always yield the desired result.

    • Stephen

      $65 now on Amazon; I’m in.

  • I too am disappointed with FX shots in season two, however nothing could make me cancel my pre-order. I’ve wanted to own TNG on Blu-ray ever since the format came about and some below par special effects aren’t going to stop me. If you don’t buy this set you will have a big hole in your collection and also I wouldn’t do anything that could possibly be detrimental to future releases of Star Trek (DS9 / VOY) on Blu-ray in the future. It’s down to you at the end of the day however.

    • New Horizon

      I’ll gladly live with the hole in my collection if it means CBS gets the message and makes sure this never happens again. I would be delighted if they saw fit to correct this, as the work on display here is pretty sloppy and amateurish.

    • hypnotoad72

      “Do it good or don’t do it at all.” I think that’s the phrase.

      Still, in this day and age we’re inundated with “‘Good enough’ is good enough”. Why bother making proper use of the medium? What’s the point of restoration, to get every last quart of quality out of it, just to put out a half-baked effort?

    • Matt_Cardiff_UK

      I agree Matthew V – although S2’s FX has been ruined by CBS’s poor choice of external studio (maybe HTV’s tender was much lower than everyone elses? – get cheap contractors in – get a cheap-ass job done) I still paid for the boxset – at the end of the day – I want to see DS9 and VOY ‘remastered’ and I’m willing to pay for (just the one, and only one) bad job to see it happen.

  • Matthias Currat

    I’m glad they have reacted on the Season 2 quality and disclosed HTV from further involvement. Thanks, CBS!

  • hypnotoad72

    Amazing…

    Still, not making use of higher-res scans only means all of this has to be re-done in the future… by then, to improve on the picture (effective grain removal, without stripping detail) might be better by then…

    Doubly amazing that a different agency than HTV is being used. That’s a good change; what I’ve seen of the woefully underrated season 2 is hit or miss in terms of the f/x and over-application of noise reduction (making everyone look like Barbie and Ken dolls inside Barbie’s dream plastic fantastic mansion)…

    • archer923

      Grain is the detail. Remove it, you get wax. There’s just a middle ground.

  • Ashley Williams

    I have to wonder how much of everyone complaining about season 2 has to do with the original elements of season 2 being bad in the first place. Take the shot of the enterprise attacking the borg ship. Its not HTV’s fault that its the 2′ model. I will blame them for the planets, but everything else is speculation. Personally though, I wish that they would have said “season 2 doesn’t hold up and needs a full CGI restoration”.(just not by HTV)

  • Sky

    Thank you CBS for don’t letting HTV continue further work on TNG-R!! That’s great and the first step!! The second is to re-remaster Seasons 2 VFX – Sorry, it’s a “must do”!!

  • Matt_Cardiff_UK

    Can I ask a question that I hope someone can answer? Why is it throughout this season, the middle section of the deflector dish isn’t lit up? It’s a very noticeable difference, particularly in FX laden episodes like Times Squared. Which I’ve since watched properly, and was rather disappointed with the wooden movement of the ship during the trip through the vortex.

    http://mediacdn.disqus.com/uploads/mediaembed/images/392/3853/original.jpg

    • Corran

      A Result of using the 2 foot model I believe. They used it a lot more than it was intended for in Season 2 because the effects house at the time found the 6 foot model too cumbersome to shoot, which is why in Season 3 they built a 4 foot model that was meant to be a happy medium, but That model ended up being kind of lumpy and fat around the saucer rim, and deflector dish, unfortunately.

      • Matt_Cardiff_UK

        Until recently I didn’t know that there were 3 models. Shame the 6 foot model wasn’t used throughout the show.

  • James

    Star Trek Into Darkness Movie Poster, released!

    http://ryesofthegeek.wordpress.com/

  • Landy

    CBS should redo Season 2 and offer an exchange program since it is a big step backward from Season 1.

  • Delpheas

    HTV is not involved in 4? THANK GOD!

  • Dathon

    Is CBS Digital going to offer replacement discs for Season 2?