EXCLUSIVE: Interview with Sandra Piller – The Best of Both Worlds Screening

Michael Piller was both a writer and later an Executive Producer on Star Trek: The Next Generation, penning some of the most memorable episodes including the Season 3 cliffhanger "The Best of Both Worlds". Michael died in 2005 leaving a wife and two children. At the recent "Best of Both Worlds" cinematic event in Los Angeles, we had the pleasure of talking to Michael's widow, Sandra Piller, after the screening and spoke to her a little about her memories of Michael and her plans to attempt to publish his manuscript "Fade In: The Writing of Star Trek Insurrection"

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Sandra Piller: The Best of Both Worlds Interview

Interviewed by Adam Walker with Tom and Dennis Bateman for TrekCore.com

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TrekCore: What would Michael have thought about tonight?

Sandra Piller: You know, he was very shy. He was the last one to take credit. He'd be blushing, I'd have to tell you right now. He'd be proud, of course; he was very proud of it. It was a lot of fun, first of all, to see it on the big screen like that, in a real theater, was amazing. To see the people's reactions was really fun. You know, a lot of the people in the audience were people that worked on the show too, so there were a lot of little inside things that people got. It was fun; it was fun to watch everybody.

TrekCore: Many people regard the third season of Star Trek: The Next Generation as the year that the show really hit its stride, with some of the very best episodes. Many people have pointed to the influence that Michael Piller had when he joined the staff. Do you remember him talking to you about his experience writing these two episodes?

Sandra Piller: I remember that it was a cliffhanger for the end of the season and he had - as they said in the story - he had no idea what was coming next at the end of the season for the next season! But he kept saying, "Somebody should do a bumper sticker saying THE BORG IS COMING, because all summer, people will be freaking out! What's the Borg, what's the Borg?" He loved it; he loved anticipating what he was going to write next.

TrekCore: Sandra, you contributed heavily to the tribute to Michael Piller on the Season Three Blu-rays that are coming up. How did it feel going back to thinking about Michael working on Next Generation?

Sandra Piller: It brings up a lot of early mornings... hearing him at work. You know, he was a very early bird and he'd be up at five or four in the morning typing away, and he loved it. He loved the stress of it, you know. It was stress, but it was a good stress. It energized him.

TrekCore: And the writers kind of looked at him, I think, as a father, along with Jeri Taylor as their mother figure, which is what we were talking about earlier.

Sandra Piller: Right!

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Michael Piller with Ron Moore and Ira Steven Behr during production of the
third season of The Next Generation.

TrekCore: So, these guys must be almost your extended family in that sense, that they were kind of Michael's work family.

Sandra Piller: They were the work family, and we did go to a few ball games together and things at times, so it was fun. It was a big family. But, you know, families grow up and move on, and we've sort of lost touch with each other over the years, but at the time, yeah!

TrekCore: Are you still actively involved with Michael's legacy? Do you represent Michael at Star Trek conventions?

Sandra Piller: Yeah, I've just started because I'm getting - he wrote a book about the making of the movie Insurrection.

TrekCore: Insurrection, yes! A very famous bootleg book which no one wants to be published! Tell us about that.

Sandra Piller: Well, I'm working on getting it published now, so... I know it's out there on the Internet, but I was hoping to make some bound copies and make them sort of special. It was about when he wrote the movie Star Trek: Insurrection, and there's a lot about the writing of it, you know, and the dilemmas he had. He and Rick Berman did have a lot of writing, and a lot of re-writing, and just a lot of the things that came up; new pages, you know...

TrekCore: I know that some of the writers who worked with Michael on Next Generation read the manuscript, and reacted with surprise on hearing his innermost thoughts about the writing process that he didn't seem to communicate to them as vividly as he did in the book. It's a very honest truthful book in that sense, of his deepest, most inner-most thoughts.

Sandra Piller: Going through the process of getting it published, you have to have people read it, and people want to make changes, and edit it, and I'm thinking, "Oh no, we can't do that! We can't change a word!" Because as I'm reading it, I'm hearing Michael's voice.

TrekCore: It's very personal in that respect.

Sandra Piller: It is! I understand that they might want to make changes, because when you do a rewrite on a script, then you have the new pages, so in reading it, it might seem like, "Oh, it's a repeat, it's a repeat with just a few changes," but that's the process of writing a script. So he really wanted it to be instructional which, you know, I think it is. I've asked a couple of people that have read it online "What do you think?" Should I have it edited?" and they say "No, leave it like it is! Don't touch a thing!"

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Piller considered his book "Fade In" to be his last great gift
to Star Trek fans and to aspiring writers everywhere.

TrekCore: I confess to being one of those who have read it online, and I love it as it is. I would hate for you to change any of that - or be forced to change that - because it's so brutally honest in parts, but that's the beauty of it, because it's his raw feeling. It's not censored; it's not covered by Paramount's publicity machine or anything like that. It's Michael; it's his thoughts of the whole Star Trek universe and what it meant to him.

Sandra Piller: Right, right. Well, when he first got the go-ahead from the studio to write the book, and he got it signed-off with all the actors and everyone... when he finally turned it in, he was shocked! They said, "We can't let the public know what we do here, what goes on behind the scenes!" So I'm hoping that everybody's evolved and grown a little bit, and they're ready for it. As I said, it's on the Internet, but I'm hoping I can add some special things to it and make it...

TrekCore: I think a few special touches would make it even more special. I would certainly pick up a copy.

Sandra Piller: Oh, great! Well, so, we're working on it.

TrekCore: Fingers crossed!

Sandra Piller: You'll be the first to know.

TrekCore: I must say, Sandra - someone sent in some recordings to the site, some audio recordings, of a script-breaking session where a writer calls up Paramount, he breaks a script, and then he visits them. There's meeting with this writer, Jeri, and Michael in a room together. You get to hear Michael in his most contemplative and thoughtful mode, that he's in as a writer, saying, "No, this can't happen because we did THIS before.", and he was very keen on steering this character into this direction.

He has things so crystal clear in his head when he's talking; an almost incomprehensible grasp of what's going on in this television series. He comes across as a very methodical, thoughtful man in that sense. Is that how he was to you personally?

Sandra Piller: Oh, yes. Absolutely. Very thoughtful, very caring... thinking ahead of the consequences, what can happen; he was good at that.

TrekCore: Thank you so much for sharing that. Thank you.

Sandra Piller: Well, thank you.

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Let us know your thoughts on "Fade In: The Writing of Star Trek Insurrection" and Michael Piller's legacy in the comments section below. You can order "The Best of Both Worlds" on Blu-ray using the links below.

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  • Zarm

    I’ve read FadeIn, and I think it’s fantastic- and makes me long for the Insurrections that could have been. It’s brilliant, and candid, and I for one would love to see it get a long-overdue publication.

    • Platitude

      I really like his original pitch for it better than the finale movie script.

      • Zarm

        With the runabout battle and the sword duel and the like? And ‘The Federation *did* listen’? I’d love to see that movie…

  • archer9234

    I’d get a copy. It’s always good to know what goes on in those rooms, writing for shows. People need to know it’s not tea and cookies.

    • hypnotoad72

      TV shows, movies, 99 cent apps… people really don’t (or often care to) know how things are made. It’s very time-consuming, labor-intensive, and can cost a lot of money…

      • archer9234

        Yes. I’ve seen comments where people have said entertainment is a right and should be free. When they don’t realize they insulted 500-1000 people working on said show you love to watch. People appreciate a house builder. But can’t appreciate all the people that make Iron Man fly in the air. Sucks really.

  • burty b

    fade in is a cracking piece of work. i would definitely be interested in getting a printed copy

  • Jonathan

    Great interview!!! Thank you Trek Core.

  • Grand Dreams

    What a wonderful interview thanks Trekcore. Sandra sounds very sweet and i hope she can get Fadein published.

  • M. Wright

    Great interview, I really hope Sandra gets “Fade In” published, I’d love to read it!

  • CaliburnCY

    I loved Fade In soooooo much. A great book for writers whether they’re Trek fans or not. I would be thrilled to see it published as Michael Piller wanted. And thank you, Sandra, for not letting people edit it!
    Was the missing Nov. 15th script draft ever found? It’d be neat if that draft were restored to a published copy. I’d buy a hard copy regardless, but that would be a coup.

  • Andrew

    Because of this article, yesterday I searched for Fade In and read the whole thing in pretty much one sitting. It was fascinating, I loved it. Insurrection still isn’t one of my favorites, but it gives me a new appreciation for what they were trying to do with it. Its also a very interesting look into the writing process for films.

  • Fan

    I’ve read the manuscript to which she alludes, and it’s definitely a good read. Very interesting, and perhaps even more so in retrospect because some of the stuff they wisely rejected for Insurrection later found its way into Nemesis (unfortunately). I don’t think it should be edited, but adding a few pictures wouldn’t hurt :)

  • Lenonn

    Fade In is an instant buy for me if they get it released.

  • hypnotoad72

    Looking forward to the “Insurrection” book! I’ve not read the book, have not seen it in bootleg form, liked the movie despite its foibles, and loved Piller’s contributions to the show in general. It will be a great buy.

  • shanebroughton

    I read “Fade In” and it’s a terrific book. It was a fascinating insight into Trek in the late 90s and I strongly recommend that all fans pick up a copy if and when it makes it to market. While reading it I was surprised how much creative power was given to Patrick Stewart. I’m sorry to say that he, IMO, ruined Insurrection. The first two ideas Michael Piller presented could have been amazing films! Patrick was unhappy and wanted to turn Trek into a non-stop action film while distancing it from everything we loved about the series. So they rewrote and ended up with a film that no one seemed to have much passion for.