This article was originally posted on TrekCore on June 24.
At the publisher’s request, we held it and restored it for public view today.

Ever since the first STAR TREK BEYOND teaser trailer arrived in December, eagle-eyed fans have been speculating about changes to the Enterprise digital model – some of which we first saw June’s revealed cross-section diagrams, and of course now seen in film as it has arrived in theaters.

A new expansive interview with Peter Chiang – founder of effects house Double Negative, and VFX supervisor on BEYOND – spoke to HD Video Pro magazine’s Kevin H. Martin in their August issue, where the digital designer goes into great detail on not just the revised Enterprise, but also the breadth of CGI work that’s gone into this summer’s new film.

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Krall’s Swarm ships collide with the Enterprise midsection.

While we noticed a few design updates to the Enterprise when comparing the December 2015 and May 2016 BEYOND trailers, it turns out that the digital model first created by Industrial Light & Magic has received more of an overhaul than we previously assumed.

All of the [previously-created] digital assets belong to Paramount, so we inherited the ILM model [of the Enterprise]. Even so, there was a lot of shader work needed to translate that into the ship we wanted to see onscreen, which is the Justin Lin version of the Enterprise.

It goes back in time a bit stylistically, looking closer to the original TV version, which always seemed a littler vulnerable with those slender segments linking the saucer, engineering, and the nacelles.

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The Enterprise rockets away from Starbase Yorktown.

Our new changes included adding a ‘fastback’ aspect to the nacelles, which formed a bit of a ‘V’ shape [angling inward towards the rear]. We also stretched and thinned both the nacelles and the ship’s neck, making them more obvious targets for the [Swarm attack].

We also took the opportunity to give fans close looks at parts of the ship they’ve never previously seen from these angles, a way pay tribute to the fantastically-original design of the TV ship.

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The new warp effect is based upon real scientific research on gravitational lensing.

The wild ‘warp bubble’ effects seen in last month’s trailer blew us away when we first saw them, and it turns out that a lot of work went into designing this new high-speed vortex, a significant change from the warp graphics seen in the prevous films.

In the past films, there was always kind of a light-driven way they had for showing the stream to warp speed. In reevaluating our options, this gave us a chance to take inspiration from real physics for our warp effect.

Right from the outset, I was presenting Justin with ideas on how this could look. We did studies on how light is bent by gravitational lensing, then looked at high-speed shooting of 3000-4000 [frames per second] to see how bullets create a wake as they travel through water.

We also scrutinized images of planes and their vapor trials as they go beyond the sound barrier. I imagined multiple shock waves building up and stacking on one another, forming this layer in front of the vessel. This tells us we’re traveling at high speed and gives a dimensional quality to it.

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The USS Franklin approaches Starbase Yorktown.

Chiang also discussed his goal of expanding the look of space travel:

We looked at a lot of NASA footage to see how the whites blow out in genuine conditions of harsh direct sunlight [in space], and I wanted to introduce a lot more of a feel for 3D space this time, in terms of ship and camera movement.

That way, it wouldn’t all be so linear, and instead reinforce how there’s no up or down in this environment.

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Swarm vessels fly through Yorktown’s interior cityscape.

The bbiggest digital creation for BEYOND is Starbase Yorktown, a spidery structure held within a great spherical forcefield – and the end result of last fall’s overseas visit to Dubai, where the practical footage was shot for this deep-space destination.

The base is out at the frontier of Federation space, constructed as a series of angled structures… within a 16-mile diameter sphere. Using a volume of space in the most efficient and economical manner would absolutely be the way to go with structures out there, and that meant maximizing the inner volume.

We played with the idea that the sphere surrounding the station was opaque during the day, but the inner hemisphere becomes more transparent at night, letting the inhabitants see stars outside; that would be a comfort for space travelers.

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Starbase Yorktown’s city from above, based upon Dubai’s skyline.

The [background footage of Dubai] served as a basis for our final [designs], but we had to embellish very extensively for pretty much every view. Everything changed color-wise, since the Federation is principally blue, white, silver, and black, but Dubai feels very beige and yellow.

During shooting [in Dubai], we were very conscious of what was to be visible overhead. We had LIDAR scans done of about forty buildings there that worked for our purposes architecturally… to populate the background [of Yorktown].

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The USS Franklin fights its way through the Swarm fleet.

Finally, Chiang also weighed in on how his colleagues in the various VFX teams working on the film used their own knowledge of Trek history to keep the digital designs in check.

We found that every [VFX] facility working on [Beyond] had what I call “Star Trek Yodas” working there; each of them was like a kind of brain trust you could question to find out if some design or maneuver went against what had been established on other Trek shows and films.

We had sequences with a vessel from an earlier century and the design process took a bit of a hit when the Yodas told us [the USS Franklin] should reflect what had been seen in the [time of Star Trek: Enterprise].

STAR TREK BEYOND arrives in just over four weeks.

  • James

    “this gave us a chance to take inspiration from real physics”

    “We looked at a lot of NASA footage to see how the whites blow out in genuine conditions of harsh direct sunlight”

    Music to my ears! This is why I love season one of TOS, they really tried to put the science into the fiction.

  • New Horizon

    I’m really happy to see Double Negative doing the effects work on this film. When I saw the warp bubble effect, I immediately thought of Interstellar…which they also did but at the time I didn’t know they were the effects house for the film. They do beautiful work.

    • Simon

      Still, I’m personally big on “visual continuity” and they should have paid to have ILM continue their stellar work on the series. Note that the films ILM did NOT do were all considered disappointments TMP, TFF, INS, NEM

      • startrekker1701

        Hear, hear.

      • Io Jupiter

        Lucas approached Douglas Trumbull to do the effects on Star Wars but Trumbull declined as he was already committed to working on Steven Spielberg’s film Close Encounters of the Third Kind, but suggested his assistant John Dykstra to Lucas. John Dykstra brought together a small team of college students, artists, and engineers, and set them up in a warehouse in Van Nuys, California. Lucas named the group Industrial Light and Magic, which became the Special Visual Effects department on Star Wars. Both Trumbull and Dykstra came in and did the VFX on ST TMP. Yes the head man at the time for ILM was Dykstra and he worked on ST TMP. ST TMP had the two best VFX leaders in the business.

  • Mike C.

    ENT love!!’

  • Justin Schmidt

    well, they looked at real physics of things moving close/passing the soundbarrier. that has nothing to do with warp speed. not by far.

    • David Rothman

      Coincidentally or not, it looks just like “warp bubble” graphics seen on the TNG-era shows. It’s a beautiful effect.

      • Justin Schmidt

        yes, it does look good.

    • Godzilla

      who cares, its still cool

      • Trekboi

        Thats the JJ attitude lol

    • Section31

      Actually the visual difference shouldn’t be that big. Flying with sopersonic speed you have the MACH cone where the air gets compressed very much. To create a stable warp bubble the space gets compressed in front of the space ship to get expanded again after the ship passed. The visual effect caused by a gravitational lens should look similar to that effect you get by passing the soundbarrier.

  • awesomesocks42

    “We had sequences with a vessel from an earlier century and the design process took a bit of a hit when the Yodas told us [the USS Franklin] should reflect what had been seen in the [time of Star Trek: Enterprise].”

    Music to my ears

    • jerr

      cool.. it really is supposed to look like an old NX ship!

      • Darkthunder

        Forgotten the “Intrepid type” ?
        http://memory-alpha.wikia.com/wiki/Intrepid_type

        That ship was definitely constructed before the NX-class, but still shared some of the same elements.

        • jerr

          In universe, it’s the other way around 😉

        • It’s great that the Franklin fits into the Starfleet lineage. The acknowledgment of the shared history of the Prime and Kelvin timelines is a wonderful little touch. If they ever rerender the effects of Enterprise they should sneak in a Franklin class vessel somewhere.

      • Ctrl-Opt-Del

        Given that it’s apparently supposed to be the first class with a Warp 4 engine, it makes sense that it would look somewhat like a prototype NX class. Maybe this is an “NW class” starship that came between the Warp 3 Capable NV class “Intrepid type” and the Warp 5 Capable NX class “Enterprise type”?

        • DJCo

          “NX” is a real-world prefix used for experimental US aircraft.

          • Ctrl-Opt-Del

            True, but the starships in Star Trek are neither American (well, not exclusively), nor aircraft (even if some can fly in an atmosphere); so that’s just a coincidence.

    • ADeweyan

      I’m hoping the Hot Rod Enterprise is destroyed and something more elegant and restrained.

      • BotanyCameos

        I hope the A will look the same as the “hot rod” one. It looks awesome.

      • Charlie Oakes

        Translation : ” I hope I get what *I* want and the thing *I* don’t like is gone “

    • Fctiger

      Yeah it is great to here. Trek nerds like us live for that little bit of trivia. Its something added in later after the fact but yet fits perfectly within the timeline we all know and love. Where were these guys when they were casting Khan. 😉

  • jonahkrautter

    Minus the first teaser and Chris Pine’s recent dumb statement, I have been impressed with the care that’s been taken with the making of STB now that JJ’s gone.

    • robjoh

      What recent dumb statement did he make? Did I miss that somehow? lol!

      • Ace Stephens

        You didn’t (miss a recent dumb statement for him) but you seemingly did miss people overreacting to something taken out of context.

        • robjoh

          Oh,I saw that,so didn’t miss anything,lol! I just tend to ignore most of the negativity and nitpicking and overreactions people come up with,lol. It’s actually kinda fun,to see what people get caught up in and have hissy fits about,lol.

    • Shane

      With Pines statement he is actually tell the truth of how it is in this day and age of cinema people dont want a lot of talky movies at summer.

    • Read the follow-up; Pine’s remarks were taken out of context. He goes on to say that he’d love to have the kind of slower, more talky Star Trek that Merchant-Ivory would make.

  • TrekRules

    “We also stretched and thinned both the nacelles and the ship’s neck, making them more obvious targets for the [Swarm attack].” – Boy, that gives me confidence; they had to alter the ship design in order to make the story work. May not be JJ making this film but that is some JJ thinking there!

    • Ace Stephens

      I don’t think you read the context appropriately.

    • BotanyCameos

      I look at your comment and all I see is “Any excuse, no matter how hilariously nonsensical, is a good reason to bash JJ!”

  • Dwight Williams

    Reflexive comment: UES Franklin.

    And if the backstory has this ship being built after the founding of the Federation, then we really do have further evidence that this alt-universe always co-existed alongside the “Prime” universe, and didn’t merely diverge when the Narada showed up.

    • David Rothman

      Or…the UES Franklin was recommissioned as the USS Franklin once the Federation was founded. The United Earth Space Probe Agency stuff was weird and contradictory. It was retconned away in TNG anyway.

      • Dwight Williams

        And retconned back in at the offices of United Earth Starfleet in the “Terra Prime” two-parter in ENT.

        Although your point about recommissioning under the new organization is well taken.

        • Ctrl-Opt-Del

          Taking this computer graphic from ENT “Divergence” as canon:

          http://vignette1.wikia.nocookie.net/memoryalpha/images/9/97/USS_Enterprise_NX-01_und_USS_Columbia_NX-02.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20060824233329&path-prefix=de

          They were apparently using the USS prefix back in the mid-22nd century.

          • Dwight Williams

            *blinks*

            You’d think they’d go with “UES”. Easier to defend the trademark in court, right?

          • Ctrl-Opt-Del

            Given that Earth cargo ships used the prefix “E.C.S.” the logical prefix for an Earth Starfleet ship would be “E.S.S.” (or “U.E.S.S.” for United Earth Starfleet ship), but most sources claim it was just “S.S.” (for either Space Ship or Star Ship), and the only onscreen evidence does say “U.S.S.” with no explanation of what it stands for… All a bit of a fustercluck, really.

    • Ace Stephens

      I don’t follow much of the debating that goes on so maybe I’m taking what you’re saying out of context or missing your point entirely. However, I don’t understand the confusion about “diverging” when the Narada showed up. To me, I always figured that it did but any variances in the alt-universe from previously exist due to time travel (post-Narada to pre-Narada).

    • we might be overthinking the franklin a little. yeah the popular mechanics article called it the first warp 4-capable starship, but that might be detail not actually included in the film. it’s clearly intended to be a federation vessel.

  • pittrek

    Do you plan an article about the scandalous fan films policy?

    • Fan productions are not part of our “Star Trek” coverage.

      • pittrek

        OK, thanks for the info

        • Trekboi

          Made BY STAR TREK Fans for Star Trek fans sometimes with with Star Trek cast & Crew so how is it not Star Trek News?

          • The Bandsaw Vigilante

            Fan-films are not canonical studio productions, despite using previous Trek actors, etc.

          • Snap

            But the Smithsonian restoration and display of the original Enterprise model is not a “canonical studio production” despite using a previously used filming model.

            I’m not arguing or disagreeing with TrekCore’s policy on the matter, but a number of the arguments others have made to justify it can also be used to call into question why attention is paid to some newsworthy stories while others are ignored.

          • The Bandsaw Vigilante

            In this case, it’s because the Enterprise model was used in one of those canonical Paramount (Desilu) productions, and there’s a whole bunch of related fan-interest in the story because the ship so iconic, culturally-speaking, due to the TV show itself.

            No matter how popular something like, say, Axanar, becomes, it’ll still be an unlicensed non-CBS production, which is why there will likely be no coverage on TrekCore of, say, the USS Ares starship, for example.

          • Snap

            But how is that any different from including actors who were in canonical productions? The Smithsonian exhibit isn’t a CBS or Paramount production but if the argument that it is okay is because the model was used in a canonical production, what about the actors who have appeared in 100+ canonically produced episode?

            I mean, there have even been articles on fan-made boxes for DVD/Blu-ray collections, how is that any different than having an article on a fan film or even CBS/Paramount’s policy on such films? If one is going to use the justification of being part of a “canonical production” as a criteria for being covered, one cannot just pick and choose which aspects are acceptable.

            There’s even an article talking about an upcoming documentary regarding the Enterprise model renovation, which wouldn’t be any different than covering CBS/Paramount’s new policy regarding fan films. If TrekCore simply doesn’t want to cover anything fan film related, that’s cool as it is their site and as they aren’t charging us to access the content, we are not in any position to demand they do so.

            However, TrekCore hasn’t shied away from fan produced material in the past, Two and a half years ago they released this article: http://trekcore.com/blog/2014/12/custom-blu-ray-designs-part-i-tng-borg-box-set/ but I guess it’s okay because the fan in question is a TrekCore contributor. It creates a bit of a double standard but, again, it is their site and it is their decision what to cover.

            Finally, I am not arguing that TrekCore SHOULD cover fan films merely that selectively choosing which elements of “canonical productions” are eligible for coverage is not a reasonable justification. If you’re going to use it, it’s either all or nothing. If covering the restoration of the Enterprise model has been CBS/Paramount approved and sanctioned, then that’s all there is to it.

          • If a project is actively seeking donations to be able to actually *do* the project, that’s something we’re not involving ourselves in until the fundraising period has closed.

            Neither the Smithsonian project, nor the “Borg Box” Blu-ray project involved public funding requests of any kind.

            Hopefully that makes our position more clear.

          • Snap

            I’m certainly not criticising TrekCore’s policy on fan films or the like and I definitely don’t have any vested interest or desire to campaign for such coverage.

            I had brought up those examples as they could be interpreted as “fan” projects as CBS/Paramount are not involved as a previous poster claimed it was different due to the Enterprise model being used in a “canonical production” whereas the same argument could be used for something like Tim Russ directing and appearing in an unofficial Star Trek-related project. Thus, by the whole “canonical production” argument, Tim Russ’s project would be just as relevant, considering he appeared in the majority of Voyager’s episodes and would be more relevant to the focus of the site than, say, covering William Shatner’s horse charities.

            So I support TrekCore’s policy regarding fan productions and the whole point intended with the debates was the “canonical production” argument holds no weight when it is selectively applied.

          • The Bandsaw Vigilante

            The model itself was used in an actual canonical Paramount/Desilu production, is what I was saying, there — that’s from where it derives its legitimacy. As I alluded to, there’s a great deal of cultural interest in seeing the model fully restored, considering its place in television history.

            Also, fan-film production such as Prelude to Axanar might be allowed under CBS’s current guidelines, but they’re still unendorsed by the studio, regardless if, say for example, Gary Graham reprises his role of Soval in it, or what-have-you.

            It’d be a bit like getting Marina Sirtis to pop into your garage-based fan production as Counselor Troi — she might be playing the character, but if it isn’t a legally-authorized CBS production, it’s not canon.

            Agreed with you, re: TrekCore’s choice of coverage (and I’d have no problem with it if they did change their policy), but those are the basic legal differences between fan-productions and productions authorized by the copyright-holder.

      • jerr

        that’s reasonable.

      • Newdivide1701

        Fan films are fan made productions without the involvement from the primary studio.

        You are reporting Star Trek based news which is not a fan made production affected by the guidelines that either needs to be scrapped or forced to be scrapped.

      • MJ

        TrekCoreStaff,

        I support 100% you decision to to only cover actual Star Trek canon productions. Let other sites cover those — please stay above all of that.

      • The main reason I’m here following you instead of other sites, because I really don’t need the fan stuff, only the official infos about the movies and serieses. I’m living in Eastern-Europe, I don’t have an access for fairs and conventions, and seriously don’t care about non-canon stuff. So I’m really glad about your way of editing this site, thank you very much for your optimistic and supportive attitude towards core Star Trek!

      • Tone

        Personally I think that TrekCore should widen it’s scope slightly. I am not saying that TrekCore needs to turn in to a mouthpiece for fan run projects, but simply bringing Star Trek news and events to Star Treks fans should be the idea behind an unofficial Star Trek website, that by it’s very definition, is a site for Star Trek fans.

        • That’s a site about Star Trek, not fans. I don’t care what fans do, I care about Star Trek. Sorry, if this is harsh, but my guess is that I’m not alone.
          If I want to be more involved in fandom, then I look for a fan community. Their approach is not like that, and that’s why I like that site, keep it simple, and let this place be a news site, where anyone can discuss their thoughts on Trek, not community related stuff.

          • New Horizon

            Whether the content comes from Fans or officials sources wouldn’t matter to me. If it’s Star Trek related, I’m always interested in reading about it. The Guidelines are far too strict in my opinion. All that really needed to be locked down was how much money these fan films could raise…plus ‘no profits’. Whether former Trek people are working on them shouldn’t matter, as long as it’s on the up and up. I am quite saddened that Star Trek Continues will no longer be able to make episodes now that these guidelines have been handed down. I very much looked forward to watching them. They were really quite good. I hope CBS will reconsider and loosen the restrictions to focus more around fund raising and profits.

  • Trek Core, have you folks seen the new guidelines for fan films? http://www.startrek.com/article/star-trek-fan-film-guidelines-announced

    • Fan productions are not part of our “Star Trek” coverage.

      • Charlie Oakes

        Dont blame CBS or Paramount. Blame those tools at Axanar who ruined it for everyone else.

        • Trekboi

          Aanzar may have forced them to create guidelines but that only had to deal with profitering not artistic content.

          • MJ

            What’s “Aanzar”?

          • Tone

            A spelling mistake? Jeez

            Maybe he should have fed it slowly to you with a spoon, so you should not become so confused.

          • MJ

            You again, “Dawn?”…whoops, I mean “Tone” of course. Hehe!

      • Ah. Okay. I thought the new guidelines were relevant because they show the corporations’ attitudes towards the fans.

        • Trekboi

          It is totally relevant for that exact reason.

          • MJ

            Not even close, Dumba*s.

        • Tone

          They do, they have no interest in us, otherwise there would be a DS9 and Voyager remastering project underway.

      • Tone

        What exactly is??? This site seems to just regurgitate whatever the Star Trek marketing team tell you.

        You need to reconsider your scope, as it will be very limited after the TV series has run, and they take a break from making movies.

        • MJ

          Nope. Because most of us can’t stand to watch the silly fan productions. The 5% of the fans who like them are of the “super-vocal” variety, so the remaining 95% “shout” much louder than than paltry size, and so the remaining 95% of us have to hear their whining and nuTrek hate all of the time…because to nearly a man, the fans who like the fans film, have a huge hatred to the new movies.

          • Trekboi

            It’s possible to like both Dumba*s.

          • Tone

            Well said. But be careful, he knows what nearly all of us think.

          • MJ

            Sure, “Dawn” :-))

          • The Bandsaw Vigilante

            This, basically. Far too many fan-film boosters out there do it as a “protest” move against what they view as a “bastardization” of the canonical franchise by Abrams and others, and try to act as nerd-hipster gatekeepers by pimping the fan productions as “true” and “real” Star Trek, supposedly showing Abrams, Lin and the rest how “real” Star Trek is made (or whatever the hell they get on about).

            Which is fine — it’s a free country and all, but please don’t condescend to me and act like “your” preferred unlicensed fan-fic brand of Star Trek is superior to “mine.”

          • MJ

            Well said!

          • Tone

            You have a good point. I also think most if the Fan stuff is silly, and I don’t watch it.

            But just because most of it is not for me, does not make me want to stop people from doing what they want to do.

            When Paramount/CBS get declining viewing figures for Trek, they will stop producing more. If no fans are out there being vocal, then they simply wont bother taking a risk to produce more Trek.

          • The Bandsaw Vigilante

            I agree with this — while I’m not into any of the fan-stuff, I’d never stand in the way of somebody’s passion for making a film as an expression of their love of Star Trek. For me, I guess it’s more the fans of the fan-films, who weaponize their public support of them against those who happen to like the new canonical Abramsverse movies as a form of intra-tribal elitism.

          • Tone

            You are very vocal, maybe you should go and make your own production that nobody wants to see (in your expert opinion, and please, keep speaking on behalf of me, as you know what I want better than I do)

            You know nothing. Keep it that way, for everyone else’s sake.

          • MJ

            OK, “Tone”

            LOL, I mean “Dawn”

        • IsSkeptical

          Every single article here lately has you saying nothing but negative things towards this site. I’d like to see your site where you post your articles about fan films or new “special bigger better edition” model crowdfunding projects so you don’t have to come here and whine because they won’t post here what you want them to.

          • Tone

            Every single article… You are wrong, but what you are right about is that I do get the feeling that this site is becoming just a little too Paramount/CBS marketing orientated.

            If you don’t want to hear about former Star Trek staff, and their projects, then that’s fine. But please don’t tell me or anyone else what they want from a Star Trek FAN RUN website.

          • IsSkeptical

            You’re telling Trekcore what they should post, so I can tell you what I want using your logic.

          • Hi Tone, our team has already discussed the reasoning for our policy with you privately. Please feel free to respond to them through that channel if you have any other questions rather than continuing this in our comments section. Thanks.

        • Matt_Cardiff_UK

          Tone – sorry but I think you’re a bit out of line. This site covered TNG remastering in intricate detail. If anything – Paramount/CBS should reconsider the scope of their marketing.

          • Tone

            Please explain why you think I’m out of line, and who mentioned TNG Remastering? TrekCore was amazing during that time. They had news nobody else had!

            I never said that I did not enjoy what TrekCore has published, after all, that’s why I’m here. I’m just asking them to perhaps consider expanding their scope, not to cover anything that’s remotely Star Trek, but maybe consider what ex Star Trek production staff are up to.

            I’m sure that if Mike Okuda had something to peddle, this site would be all over it, but because the guys that made the TMP miniature are not well known, they are ignored, and called Fans running a Fan project. I disagree with that.

          • IsSkeptical

            I have no problem with the people who made the original refit model if they were restoring the said model, but this is another slippery slope like Axanar. just because they made the original model on a commission from Paramount, doesn’t mean at all that they own it. IMO they have no right to collect money to make one without permission from the studio that owns the copyright to the ship. whining and crying about it doesn’t change the fact that these people could raise funds for an original model instead of milking something that’s not even theirs.

      • Trekboi

        Perhaps you should change your site name to Paramount/CBS Core?

  • MeisterOlsen

    Shame I can not see this movie in the cinema or buy a blu ray. #BoycottBeyond until they erase their stupid fan film guidelines.

    • danielcw

      I hope you won’t pirate it either

  • Xandercom

    Just read this article, saw the negative comments on new fan film guidelines, and having just read them, I’m boycotting this film too.

    No thanks.

  • Charlie Oakes

    Nope. He said basically that Paramount aren’t going to spend $150m on a film to make a thoughtful slow moving movie like The Motion Picture. They want to make a profit so it has to have mass appeal. That’s truth.

  • Charlie Oakes

    Love the irony of everyone thinking there was a newer Enterprise in the trailer but it’s actually closer in design to the original Enterprise. Having said that – I do hope we get a newer design at the end of the film – which actually is closer in design to the TMP refit.

  • No, that’s NOT what he said. Read his actual comments instead of what people SAY he said. Trek Core has a nice article on it, right on this very site.

    • MJ

      Agreed. Can’t say I expect much more from a clown that shows a woman in bondage for his/her avatar.

      • Tone

        Bla Bla (insert random childish insult here) bla bla bla

        Yep, I think I have the template you use pretty much down…

        • MJ

          Whatever you say, “Dawn”…WHOOPS, I mean “Tone”

          😉

  • trevanian

    Not sure how you guys accessed this, but the article is not supposed to go online or appear in print till after the movie is out, and I think my editor has contacted you about removing it. I also don’t appreciate my work being reproduced in this piecemeal fashion, especially without any credit for having written it. Just reinforces for me how dubious this place is when it comes to ethical behavior with respect to journalism (I quit posting here over your casual attitude about the Cushman TATV atrocities masquerading as legit journalism.)

    • MJ

      Nothing personal, but you write like crap for a supposed journalist.

      Perhaps a remedial course in grammar and sentence structure would be in order for you?

      • trevanian

        Take it up with my editors if you want to make a difference on this issue. That is assuming you are actually serious and not just engaging in pointless sniping.

        I’ve been writing professionally for over a quarter-century at this point … how long have you been engaging in ill-considered attacks?

        • MJ

          so you claim…

        • Tone

          MJ is the guy on the cutting edge of all Star Trek fans opinion and thought. You must listen to everything he says.

          Basically he is Q, and can do anything, including knowing what you do for a living, and being better than you because he is incapable of making a spelling mistake, and has total command over all forms of written and oral communication.

          Therefore, he is better than you.

          • MJ

            Hi “Dawn”…whoops, I meant “Tone”…silly me!

  • Newdivide1701

    “We looked at a lot of NASA footage to see
    how the whites blow out in genuine conditions of harsh direct sunlight
    [in space], and I wanted to introduce a lot more of a feel for 3D space
    this time, in terms of ship and camera movement.

    That way, it wouldn’t all be so linear, and instead reinforce how there’s no up or down in this environment.”

    From the episode Eye Of The Beholder, that’s where a crewman kills himself in the nacelle tube by jumping into the warp plasma stream because he was being influenced by a psychic imprint from a murder/suicide years before. Anyways what bugged me was why were Riker and Worf climbing the ladder to the tube? Have the duo walk, rather run, up the nacelle pylon since it’s artificial gravity and they can put the gravity plates on the walls instead of on the decks.

    Even Babylon 5 seemed to have that lack of 3 dimensional thinking in the beginning from The Gathering, the TV movie that began the series with Kosh’s attempted assassination. Sinclair said that the designers barely had enough room on a 5 mile long space station for a Japanese Stone Garden because much of the interior is used for crop production and hydroponics. BUT if the diameter of B5’s habitat section is say 1km, say 100 metre thickness filled with decks, and say 4 metres between decks, that’s 25 decks. Say 5 decks for water supply/recycling (can be used for additional radiation protection; say another 10 for hydroponics; that still leaves 9 decks for quarters, numerous zocalos, community centres, shops and so forth if they leave the last deck for soil orchards, parks, baseball diamonds, even dozens of Japanese stone garden while still being able to feed a quarter million humans and aliens.

    Not too long ago I built an Auriga class exploration cruiser — it’s basically a Miranda class starship where you strip off the nacelles and rollbar/torpedo launchers and replaces them with the upper nacelle pylons of a Constellation class starship, lower dorsal that attaches another nacelle — where it had diagonal Jefferies tubes that are at a 45* angle and the crew members are standing upright. No ladders, no stairs, they are standing straight up, just at a 45* angle.

    I added an image to illustrate what I mean — I hope. But even Jefferies tubes like that would make more sense on a ship like the Enterprise.

  • startrekker1701

    It’s pretty frustrating to see they’ve changed the warp effect in each movie!
    And I hadn’t realised ILM hadn’t done the effects for Beyond. IIRC movies with effects done by anyone but have been somewhat lacking to say the least – V and IX in particular!

    • DIGINON

      VFX (and VFX companies) have come a long way since Star Trek V. There are now a number of effects houses that can deliver outstanding work, so it is not as important to get someone like ILM as it used to be. In fact, most big blockbusters now distribute their VFX among several companies, and you as the viewer probably don’t even realize it unless you read the credits.

      • startrekker1701

        That’s encouraging 🙂

  • Tone

    These VFX really do look good. I love the homage to 2001, it really does make it look good on screen.

    Looking forward to this film.

  • Tone

    I wonder if the reveal of the 1701-A will be at the end of this movie? And if so, I hope she is a little closer to the TMP version.

  • James Cannon

    Awesome. But really, I think someone needs to rewrite the history of this reboot. The changes happened long before the Kelvin. The Kelvin had the same warp nacelles as the current Enterprise, and that was before Nero came crashing in. Also, the Franklin, which appears to be an old NX class, has modern warp engines. So until someone can explain these changes, I am going to stick by my theory that this universe was an altered one created by the events of First Contact and also followed through by Enterprise. This would be most logical, as there is no mention of the Borg before in TOS, and Picard and crew clearly state that the Federation had no known contact with the Borg. Therefore, Nero didn’t just go back in time, they traveled to an alternate reality that was well on its way to being different with out his help. I view the Star Trek multiverse as confusing as the DC and Marvel multiverses now.

    • danielcw

      “The Kelvin had the same warp nacelles as the current Enterprise, and that was before Nero came crashing in”

      Which does not contradict the spilt at the Narada-incursion.

      “Also, the Franklin, which appears to be an old NX class, has modern warp engines”
      Without further background (i.e.: when did the Franklin crash?) that is hard to tell.

      How is starships having the same or similarilooking (!) Warp-nacelles a problem?

      • James Cannon

        It would be like having a modern touch screen smart phone in the 90’s. Its out of place due to the difference in technologies of the time periods.

    • Snap

      “Also, the Franklin, which appears to be an old NX class”

      It may have a similar shape to the NX class but it is certainly not an NX class ship (kinda like how the Pasteur is an Olympic class ship and not a Daedalus class ship) as previous screens of it have shown it to be much smaller, possibly two decks.

  • TUP

    Is Trekcore going to post their breakdown and analysis of the third trailer or should we just watch it on July 22nd?

  • Robert Dassler

    That new warp effect gives me goosebumps. It’s just like the Star Trek Encyclopedia illustration of how warp engines work made flesh.

  • Pedro Ferreira

    The visual effects, especially for the Enterprise look fake, they don’t look solid and look blurry.