As we continue to barrel towards the launch of STAR TREK: DISCOVERY later this year, there are a few updates on both that series and Trek of days past we have to bring you to look forward to in 2017.

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STAR TREK: DEEP SPACE NINE producer Ira Behr’s forthcoming documentary on that Trek series, first announced back in August, now has an official website and Twitter account.

DS9: WHAT WE LEFT BEHIND is expected to debut from 455 Films – the same production team behind Chaos on the Bridge and For the Love of Spock – this year, and documentary producer Adam Nimoy released the following information via email in December.

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Roddenberry.com, after completing their 2016 “365 Project” highlighting rarely seen photo and documentary releases around the original Star Trek series and film productions, have begun 2017 with the next generation of that project… focusing on thirty years of THE NEXT GENERATION.

 
Their ongoing TNG flashback posts can be found on their official Facebook account, with most also being shared on their Twitter feed as well.

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STAR TREK: DISCOVERY is just a few days away from the official launch of filming, as International Alliance of Theatrical Stage Employees union has January 24 slated as the first day of contracted production with the Toronto-based union. DISCOVERY will be filming at Pinewood Studios in Toronto, with sets built on their 45,900-square-foot “mega stage” at the facility.

Announced stars Michelle Yeoh and Chris Obi are already posting from Toronto on social media, with Yeoh already receiving “fan mail” (addressed to her, care of ‘Green Harvest,’ the production title of the series), and Obi showing off some DISCOVERY edibles.

1st day in 'office' and have fan mail. Sweet!! Thkq for love and support!!

A post shared by Michelle Yeoh (@michelleyeoh_official) on

CBS has also released a first ‘virtual reality’ promotion for the series, with the below 360° video highlighting Enterprise starships of days gone by.

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Ongoing Star Trek comic writer Mike Johnson first hinted that we’d get a Jaylah origin story back in October, but has now confirmed that February’s STAR TREK: BOLDLY GO #5 will be an origin story for the STAR TREK BEYOND heroine – with cover art by George Caltsoudas.

We’ll have our review of this upcoming issue when released next month.

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Eaglemoss’ Official Starship Collection is releasing their jumbo-sized, 11-inch version of the original Enterprise next week in the UK (available for order here in the UK, and here in the USA for February arrival), and now have previewed an upcoming Enterprise-D edition as well.

 

Project lead Ben Robinson confirmed on Twitter that their are plans to release more of these ‘jumbo’ ships in 2017, with the Enterprise-E next on their agenda. Also expected are the other Enterprise starships, along with both Voyager and the Defiant, based on sales success.

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Stay tuned for more Trek news!

  • Bifash

    The Jaylah backstory comic I have high hopes for – such a terrific addition to the STAR TREK mythos, I hope we see her in the next movie ( if it hopefully happens ).

    Really excited for Michelle Yeoh in DISCOVERY, I think she’ll be great. I’ve been disheartened greatly by some of the criticism of her from certain internet “fans” casting doubt on her abilities – I can only surmise that these people have NO CLUE who Michelle Yeoh is, or how talented she is.

    And before anyone starts spouting nonsense about “pandering to the chinese market” note that Michelle Yeoh is Malaysian with her first language being English.

  • grandadmiralbinks

    I’m loking forward to the year 2017. Hoping for it to be more exciting than 2016 which was quite literally mediocre,considering it was the 50th anniversary. But, I’m optimistic for 2017!

  • Tone

    I see that CBS is still churning out the 1990’s CGI for Discovery. Oh dear.

    • Michael

      Different people put that out, not the Discovery CGI artists. They are focused only on Discovery as they are behind a little in production.

      • Tone

        I’m quite aware of that, thank you. My point is that CBS keeps releasing this awful stuff, and each time the Trek fanbase groans and points fingers while laughing…

        It tells me that CBS could not care less about what fans think, or want. That is what makes me worry about Discovery, and the future of Star Trek in general…

        • Michael

          No need to worry my friend. You will be happy

          • Tone

            Hope so 😉

          • DS9 is King

            Actually you have more to worry about then you think because A couple months ago A Fan at a Star Trek Convention asked Nicholas Myer ”Will the Show be everything Star Trek Fans want it to be” and Nicholas Myer looked down at this fan and said ”Lower your Standards you might be disappointed” he went on to say ”with all Due Respect Star Trek Fans don’t know what they want” even Rod Roddenberry said Old Fans may not like the new Star Trek TV series, so prepare to be disappointed.

          • Ace Stephens

            That’s basically the same as someone saying “Don’t overhype yourself and get so caught up on expectations that you lose sight of what’s in front of you.” Which isn’t bad advice.

          • DS9 is King

            I hope this show has a lot of Action.

        • Fctiger

          You’re not really wrong but same time we haven’t seen a TRUE trailer yet, the one with the bells and whistles. Everything looks slapped together because it was. But the second they show a real trailer with the actual actors, scenes, etc and the FX are good it will all be forgotten.

          That said I have to agree with you in the sense it may be too Treky for casual fans and not Trek enough for hardcore fans. And I still think putting it in the TOS era was a mistake. It made much more sense to me to go post Voyager but we’ll see.

    • James

      The CG is very weak. All the promo work has been disappointing in my opinion. I’m very worried about Discovery, there’s precious little hype outside of Trek blogs and I feel that they’ve limited their ability to tell stories by making a prequel. Hopefully I’m wrong, but like Enterprise, I expect a canon wrecking show that is too Star Trek for the mainstream and not Star Trek enough for the hardcore fans.

      Please let it be good!

  • Jaro Stun

    why do they keep releasing crappy CGI as promotion for Discovery? This is no longer a mishap, this is a pattern which worries me sadly.

    • Michael

      They are behind on the show CGI as of 4 days ago.

      • The Science Fiction Oracle

        Additionally, my own inside source tells me that they had a snafu on Friday, when a lunchtime chicken salad sandwich order for the crew was lost during delivery.

  • Fiery Little One

    First day there and she already has some fan mail. Nice.

    • SpaceCadet

      And actual physical mail at that! I didn’t think anyone still bothered. Nowadays most fans seem to post to actors’ Facebook, Instagram and twitter accounts.

      • Fiery Little One

        That’s true. It is quite something to see in this day and age.

  • The Science Fiction Oracle

    I’m sure Michael already knows what the writers of DS9 will be saying about what a DS9 Season 8 season would have covered.

    😉

    • Michael

      I only know of some prelim directions the show would have gone if a season 8 was greenlighted. For example, there was discussion regarding the “vanished” Dominion fleet that the wormhole aliens made “vanish.” Starfleet was concerned as they assumed it was destroyed, but they get rumors it was just sent someone random in space.

  • Michael

    I hope they have seen my fan mail, I sent several letters to people about a week ago.

  • Michael

    Told there are two “spoilers” in the 360 video. One obvious, one hidden. The obvious one is the boxy starfleet ship. The hidden one is the mysterious shape in the effect near the end of the clip. One has to go frame by frame to see some rough details.

  • Tone

    That Eaglemos Ent-D looks stunning!

  • Michael

    I love how I get bashed by some folks here for saying “True fan,” yet in the above news roundup the term “true DS9 fan” is used and everyone is fine with it.

    • Ace Stephens

      Do you say “true fan” in an attempt to exclude others (“You must not be a true fan…” “True fans would know that…” etc.) rather than emphasize the devotion of some? If it’s something like that, I can understand why people take issue with the use of the term.

  • TrekRules

    I find it funny – DS9 has a lot of acclaim when it was out, was the #1 syndicated show by a lot of sources(pretty much taking over for TNG) and had better ratings than Voyager yet it is the “black sheep” of the franchise. I suppose it you say it enough people will start to believe it but come on, DS9 wasn’t looked at that badly when it was on tv, time to let that myth die along with a bunch of other Trek myths. Am looking forward to the documentary though.

    • SpaceCadet

      DS9 was the #2 syndicated show while it shared the airwaves with TNG and was #1 after TNG was cancelled until it was overtaken by Xena: Warrior Princess (remember that?). While TNG had ever increasing ratings and was cancelled at its peak, the exact opposite was the case for DS9: it debuted big and steadily decreased in the ratings. That’s why the producers tried to reinvigorate the show by adding Worf and doing a mid-series two hour episode which hadn’t been done before. While both VOY and DS9 were on, VOY got more attention in the media because it was a network show and because the sex appeal factor was pushed hard once Jeri Ryan was added. When I was going to college in a smaller town in VA beginning in 1997 (DS9’s 6th season), the local channel that aired the show would do it late at night or would move it around a lot. I missed a lot 6th and 7th season episodes because of that and had to finally catch up with them on DVD. I can imagine ratings weren’t helped so much if other people were in the same situation. DS9 was labeled as the Star Trek show that didn’t go anywhere because it took place on a space station, even after the Defiant was added. People also called it too dark and the opposite of what Star Trek is supposed to be. I loved the show and could argue it’s the best of all of the iterations but I can remember how it had a negative perception in the mass media and public at the time it was airing.

  • Pedro Ferreira

    I see they got Avery back in uniform. Ha, ha!

    • Michael

      That’s not Avery! That guy is fit, and is not acting crazy like Avery.

      • Pedro Ferreira

        Very true! Ha, ha! Although I wouldn’t put it past Avery to put on his uniform again at a Star Trek convention as you say he’s crazy.

  • M33

    I really really don’t understand the point of the promo video.
    What did it have to do with Discovery?
    I agree with others here that the CG is like looking at a video game or something from Babylon 5.
    I really wonder what they are thinking when they release stuff like this.

    • Michael

      It has two things to do with Discovery. One is obvious, the other is hidden but visible if you go frame by frame.

      • The Science Fiction Oracle

        “Rosebud”

      • M33

        If so, I still think it is a bit of obscurity overkill. Teasing what we already know doesn’t whet the appetite for what is to be new. And most folks are not going to take the time to scour the video for nuggets… nay, kernels, that still do not provide much context.

        Oh, well. If they are going to run this show into the ground, hopefully it won’t be as bad as the worst parts of Enterprise.

        • Fctiger

          Agreed the whole thing feels useless. Not the end of the world but if you are going to promote the show then promote it. Whats the point of trying to find hidden images? I hate crap like that, like we are all suppose to be scouring like nerds frame for frame to see some worthless image. And if thats the case its working wonders as no one has actually said what it even is which means most don’t know or care enough to figure it out. I certainly don’t.

    • Ace Stephens

      Are you saying the CG from a random virtual reality thing is like a video game as though that’s bad? That’s roughly what it is.

      What they’re presumably thinking is that people with the appropriate gear will probably enjoy this little thing. But I guess cynicism keeps winning out.

      I see all sorts of works releasing tie-in mobile games or the like which push the product but have little resemblance in terms of quality. I don’t know why people are so caught up on this one.

      • M33

        Haha.
        I’d rather have something substantial and quality to chew on rather than a familiar-tasting but ultimately unfulfilling rice cake.

        That’s just me.
        I would have thought at the very least we might have seen the “revamped” Discovery, although I have this sneaking suspicion that it isn’t going to look at all different from what we first were shown.

        I really hope to be proven wrong on that.

        • Ace Stephens

          I would prefer great stuff too but this is just a random thing. It doesn’t look too good to me but it’s in the range of some virtual reality-related stuff I’ve seen. I think fans are just desperate for concrete things and so this “fun” little VR thing has become subject to a level of scrutiny that it maybe doesn’t deserve (I don’t know though – maybe VR people think it sucks).

          I’m just frustrated by the constant negativity. All anybody’s saying is how bad it looks. And acting like this reflects directly on the upcoming show in some meaningful way (“The CG will suck!” “If promos are this bad then…” and all that). Which I don’t understand. Especially since I have yet to hear anyone say they are into VR and watched this on a headset or something.

          To me, it would be like if they had a simple mobile game for Discovery and people thought that was reflective of the show. Good or bad. If everyone loved/hated it, I would question who’s avtually into the mobile games and what they think and why anybody thinks it says much about the show besides featuring an easter egg or something.

          I think this sort of negativity and potential cynicism might discourage them from releasing anything (for free) in the future. I think it’s bad for fans that this (and a lot of stuff, more than I would hope) is being viewed less with a curious eye and more with an entitled frustration.

      • Fctiger

        For me I don’t really care about the graphics. As you said its just a little promotion probably done by a third party. For me, its mostly just the fact there was no point to it. Why say its for Discovery but then there is nothing actually there for the show? Its putting more people off than anything but as a VR experience on its own its fine. Its a perfect example of how bad the marketing has been for Star Trek of late from Beyond’s dismal marketing to the 50th anniversary in general. Hopefully when the REAL marketing of this show starts it will be a 180 degree difference.

        • Ace Stephens

          I think some here indicated it had some easter eggs that might relate to Discovery? I don’t know.

          And I agree the marketing of Trek has had evident issues recently. If it was one of these ‘Huh? Um…” things among a bunch of clearly good/great ones, it would be different with some likely more capable of saying it’s just a little promo thing that doesn’t matter much (although some others would probably still flip out – “Oh no! I had such hope after all the others but now this one thing has ruined it all!”).

          Lots of weird inferences or cynicism are going on. Being like, “What is wrong with the marketing for this show? This doesn’t look good just watching it on YouTube. I hope the show is better.” makes absolute sense to me. Thinking this individual promo says a lot about what Discovery will be like, quality-wise, doesn’t make nearly as much sense to me.

    • Fctiger

      Yeah count me in on what was the point of that ‘promo’? How do you say its about Discovery but then don’t show anything from it???

      But I have to say in an odd way that promo was kind of good news in the sense it didn’t even bother to show the Discovery ship which we have all (sadly) seen. My thinking on it is if they were still using that ship they would’ve put it in the promo. The fact they DIDN’T probably means they are really in the middle of creating a better one. Thats my hope anyway. 😉

  • Ben

    This prequel stuff is just killing me. Watching that new promo makes me NOT want to watch it.

    • The Science Fiction Oracle

      It just looks horrible, and I could care less about Michael’s excuses — if you are a major studio you just should know better than to publicly release lame looking crap like this 360 thing and to put the CBS Log on it.

      I am embarrassed for CBS.

      • Ace Stephens

        Did you watch it in the intended format? If so, how does it live up to the needs of that even if not living up to your aesthetic preferences?

        • Tone

          It looks like CGI from the late 90’s. Bad polygons, terrible multi-resolution assets, bitmapped low res, non animated background, It’s crap.

          Just because you can look at it in 360, does not stop it from looking like a turd in all 360 degrees.

          • The Science Fiction Oracle

            Agreed. Crappy low res amateurish-level CGI looks bad in any format…the “oh wow” of seeing this thru VR glasses is not going to save this piss-poor attempt at releasing something in advance for the fans.

            This is embarrassing — I’ve seen a lot better VFX in recent fan productions.

          • Ace Stephens

            That…completely ignores the question I asked. The question I asked was about viewing it in the virtual reality format, since I know that questionable graphics aren’t necessarily uncommon for that.

          • Tone

            That’s because it’s a pointless question, which serves as your attempt at Troll-baiting. So now I’ve taken the bait, feel free to invalidate what everyone is saying about the lack of quality of the video.

          • Ace Stephens

            Troll-baiting? So you admit you’re a troll who willfully ignored my question that asked how well the video served its intended format? It’s odd though because I wasn’t trying to bait trolls – but you don’t follow what I say anyway.

            If I ask what something looks like in IMAX even though some didn’t like the look on a regular screen, I don’t need/want people showing up to tell me what it looks like on a regular screen. The main likelihood for anyone who shows up to comment like that is that they’re either a troll or they’re so self-involved that they’ll negate the context of the question due to their own fixation.

            I assumed you were the latter but I guess the former is just as applicable.

            “I’m gonna derail this from what was asked because many people dislike the thing in question in another format.” Quite trollish indeed. As though I hadn’t heard the negativity otherwise (I was responding to someone who was negative about it) and wasn’t wondering about the specifics of the playing within format it was intended for.

            Maybe you should just stop reading negative agency onto people and instead listen to what they say. But I suppose that is asking too much from a troll.

          • The Science Fiction Oracle

            Ace, of course you’re not a troll. I don’t condone Tone’s comments on you in that regard. Nevertheless I agree with his general point that it’s kind of pointless to give this video a free pass because it might not the perceived as quite as bad for a VR user who is viewing this in the format it was intended for.

            And to answer your question directly — all of the demos I have seen with VR glasses at Best Buy look much better and more convincing than this in terms of the VFX look. And some of that material I have also seen in 2D HDTV format, and it still looks damn good. So if you’re trying to claim that we should give this a free pass, because it was generated natively for another medium, I’m just not buying that. This looks like shit….period.

          • Ace Stephens

            I’m not saying “free pass” – I’m saying that it should be viewed in context as a random promo thing thrown together for VR. But at least some people here are acting like it’s (indicative of) footage from the show, much like those who didn’t look into the con footage that was shown.

            However, thank you for your insight regarding concerns surrounding VR. Most of the VR stuff I have seen hasn’t been that great visually but I don’t know if that’s because I haven’t seen enough or didn’t try out the fancy stuff or what. I do recall that Trek game where one is in the crew didn’t look impressive to me.

            But what I’m arguing is that context is important and I would rather have a full context here than exclusively people viewing it in a differing format, holding it to expectations I think may be too high or may be unreasonable in some ways for its intended purpose, etc.

          • The Science Fiction Oracle

            Fair enough, but we unfortunately have the previous context here of that awful teaser that came out six months ago from the Discovery team…so this new release, right or wrong, reinforces how bad most of thought the VFX was in that teaser.

            Given the qualify of both of these pre-releases, I think any objective person would be concerned here. I mean, they look like 90’s quality…like, “what the F is that; are they serious?” was my initial impression of the teaser and this latest release.

          • Ace Stephens

            So a quick thing thrown together and a random VR thing…give you pause about a full-scale production? Contextually, that doesn’t follow. Might it be grounds for concern regarding the marketing? Sure.

            As for the show itself, I haven’t seen any footage from it VFX-wise. And, even once I do, it may not be finalized since it’s in a trailer or whatever.

            But no, I can’t assure you that the actual effects on the show will be great just like I have no reason to assume they’ll be all that bad.

          • The Science Fiction Oracle

            It gives me great pause, since other major big-time productions on TV release very slick stuff in advance…not crap like this.

            At the very least, it shows poor management and marketing of the show. It’s making CBS look bad in my opinion. It’s embarrassing to see these given this is suppose to be a major show on a new worldwide network for the biggest TV studio on the planet.

            GoT, Westworld, even SyFy’s The Expanse, had credible looking promotional teasers well in advance of the show that looked slick and impressive. Whereas Discovery’s stuff to date looks like a fan did it on a 15 year old computer? Are you kidding me?

          • Ace Stephens

            As far as I can tell, their stuff to date was thrown together to give an impression of a spaceship and to give a nod toward VR. …It was never intended to be representative of the quality of the show.

            If you saw concept art of a character from WestWorld and then complained about how they don’t look very good, it would still be more relevant to the actual resulting production quality (of that project) than this.

            If I was in a realm similar to yours in terms of sentiment (and, aside from linking the quality of these things thus far directly, I don’t think I’m too far away) then, regarding the timing, I would be concerned that the lack of footage/promotion/etc. thus far means they might not have much so may rush and not be very good…or could delay the show again to do these things well…or things like that. But, even then, maybe they just aren’t releasing much to the public yet and/or the actual production knows exactly what they’re doing.

          • The Science Fiction Oracle

            Concept art is a lot different than releasing a video teaser.

            If I was in charge of Discovery, and someone brought me either the teaser or this 360 thing, I think first, I would laugh and say, “there is no way we can release something like that to the public; we will be laughed at.” Secondly, I’d get with CBS management and take a hard look at the VFX staff, and some heads might roll, with new hires being brought in immediately.

          • Ace Stephens

            What makes you think it’s the same people (or mostly the same people or anything like that)? I think that’s the whole issue here – people are conflating things that don’t necessarily go together. A teaser to give an idea isn’t the show. A VR thing to emphasize it’s coming isn’t the show. The VFX quality associated with them isn’t a direct indication of the VFX in the show.

            And even if many of the same people were involved, it’s not the show so what’s the issue? Trek fans will almost certainly watch the show anyway at some point and non-fans aren’t hearing much about these things. They probably won’t until a big promotional push.

            So what is really the issue?

          • The Science Fiction Oracle

            If that’s true, then this production team and studio management is even more of a cluster-fu*k than I have been worried about.

            You are kind of validating my whole point here — no one competent is really in charge in terms of the entire effort.

            Might we get lucky, and it still turns out good — sure, that is possible, if somewhat unlikely. Usually poorly managed TV productions don’t turn out so good. Exceptions exist though, such as B5 and The Walking Dead.

          • Ace Stephens

            I don’t know what you mean by “in charge of the entire effort.” The VFX people for VR are probably not the same people behind the VFX for the show so they get told roughly what’s wanted and go in that direction. And then whoever’s in charge of them (the VR stuff) oversees that on the basis of some requirements sheet. And the show people shrug because they’re not in charge of it anymore. Something like that. Because the nature of Trek as a property is a sprawling, unwieldly beast.

            Maybe that’s not the exact way it works but there are likely elements of that regarding the IP.

            So you say “Usually poorly managed TV productions” when, as far as I’m aware, you have no actual evidence that the tv production is that (the delays are disconcerting but sometimes things catch up with stuff and should be adjusted – so it might even be considered being well-managed once one considers the time constraints’ potential unreasonableness given the people involved). You had a teaser that was thrown together by those involved in early efforts just to have something (for a con that wasn’t focal) and a VR thing that has little immediate relationship.

            So what’s with everybody acting like this is footage from the show or means footage from the show sucks (or will suck)? It’s got about as much of an actual relationship with the show as I have with you. And I like you just fine from here (I’m fine with pretty much everyone regardless of past debates/headbutting or anything) but we’re not sending each other “Holiday Greetings!” cards.

          • The Science Fiction Oracle

            You are making this way too complicated. There apparently is not a competent person in charge, who on 99 out of a 100 other TV shows, would have reviewed the teaser and the 360 thing, and say, “no, that is not something we want to go public with….bring in the marketing department and we’ll get you some help here to create some nice preliminary materials that will build up interest…these videos suck”

            And I think you may be doing wishful thinking in asssuming that they have a much better group of VFX folks who had nothing to do with these early products. That seems like a dubious hope to me.

          • Ace Stephens

            You say that about 99 out of 100 other shows but The Walking Dead has tie-in everything, games here, collectibles and things there and when the licensing was just starting out a few years back, I heard people constantly complaining about the subpar quality (of things like games and whatever – that they seemed a bit thrown-together). Why? Presumably because it wasn’t being overseen by just one party – it was being tasked to various groups or individuals with minimal oversight in order to get something out there and then slowly coalesced into something better. Because that’s how these complex things often go, even for a franchise as large as Trek (particularly when it’s a new iteration cloaked in secrecy).

            As for wishful thinking, I don’t know what the VFX are like for the show and neither do you (presumably – maybe you know something I don’t). So there’s nothing to be “wishful” about regarding the suggestion that they might have competent VFX or the suggestion that VR stuff doesn’t seem directly-related to the VFX of the show (but maybe the VR people are great but had no time or money or whatever for this – as far as I’m aware, we don’t know). But having decent VFX – that’s a possibility. Just like that they might be the worst we’ve ever seen for Trek is a possibility.

            But saying, “We don’t know. They may be great.” isn’t wishful thinking. It’s acknowledgement of a possibility when stated in contrast to assertions that they are likely to be bad.

          • Michael

            Stop worrying, the actual show has fantastic special effects. They want you to be blown away by it, not spoiled beforehand because you have seen it already.

          • Ace Stephens

            I hope you’re right (you indicate you know things about the show otherwise, as far as I can tell). I don’t understand why people fixate on the (perceived-as) negative as though it’s evidence of something we have no indication it’s evidence of. I’m not saying they must be expressly positive about things to come (they’re certainly entitled to say they like or dislike whatever) but I don’t understand their frustration they’re projecting onto the show itself in this case. It’s like they’re tricking themselves into being cynical.

            As a result, I’m being treated here (by one individual) like I’m trying to cause problems just because I don’t understand how they think their concerns over largely unrelated things relate. It confuses me.

          • Tone

            I never called him a Troll…

          • Ace Stephens

            Where have I ever said I was “offended”? You don’t listen and so you project your own insecurities onto things. That is not my issue. It is yours.

          • Tone

            And… You did not disappoint… You are just deliberately annoying with your deliberate juxtapose position on obvious things, just so that you can try to make yourself look like the white knight that catches out yet another dastardly troll to win your self created argument. Grow up, and accept the fact that people are entitled to an opinion that differs from your own, especially when it is a completely obvious opinion, based on obvious facts.

            I cannot be bothered to spoon feed people like you who are so obviously trying to cause an argument, and so intent on becoming offended, in to trying to see things from a perspective other than your own. You have decided that you like the two pieces of Discovery CGI output from CBS, and thats fine, but being bloody minded in forcing others to explain what this and that means, when it is totally obvious, and multiple people are saying the same things for the past six months, just so you can continue in picking your victims for your circular and childish arguments is not working with me.

          • Ace Stephens

            Grow up, and accept the fact that people are entitled to an opinion that differs from your own, especially when it is a completely obvious opinion, based on obvious facts.

            I was looking for a contextually-appropriate opinion on a work created for a format (or in a manner) other than the one most seem to be viewing it in. I sought out the opinions on The Hobbit films from those who saw them in 48fps. I sought out the opinions on Gravity from those who saw it in 3D. Etc. This isn’t trolling. It’s looking for informed opinions of the (maximum/optimum intended) format in question. If I had been involved in the fandom when TOS Blu-rays first came out, I would have asked if people were watching the original effects (the appropriate intended format) or the remastered (CGI) version, particularly if most seemed to be indicating that they were watching the remastered version and had issues with the effects. (Which I did, too.)

            You have decided that you like the two pieces of Discovery CGI output from CBS, and thats fine…

            Where did I say that? You don’t even listen. People behaving like you’re behaving give Trek fans a bad name as you’re not here to listen and engage meaningfully. I am. Someone said they disliked something and I asked if they saw it in the intended format and what their thoughts were on that if they had. They provided those, in-context (they had seen VR but not this in that form – although it didn’t live up to what they would expect from that form anyway).

            …but being bloody minded in forcing others to explain what this and that means, when it is totally obvious, and multiple people are saying the same things for the past six months, just so you can continue in picking your victims for your circular and childish arguments is not working with me.

            What what means? What are you talking about? Regarding the two things you singled out, people keep pointing toward things (that in some cases aren’t, in themselves, even what they say they are) as evidence of something they’re not directly correlated to (let alone causally indicative of – the finalized visual effects for Discovery). So when people flip out over something and start attributing things to it that aren’t there, I do question what further information they have or how they drew that conclusion if not just putting two and two together and saying it’s twenty-two.

            You are behaving in a trollish manner here by trying to cause conflict where there shouldn’t be any. I asked a question regarding the VR format and it was roughly answered to the extent it can be by the party I asked. If you have no knowledge or awareness in that regard (the format), you should stop trying to cause arguments. And you can stop erroneously projecting onto me while you’re at it.

      • Theo Bear

        I was embarrassed for CBS last year when it did sweet FA for Star Trek’s 50th, and “helped” put on the worst officially licenced Trek conventions I’ve ever been to. The ongoing Discovery debacles are just the icing on the cake. Discovery’s fast showing itself to be far more of a pain in the ass than an STD.

  • Impecunious Joe

    I know this doesn’t pertain to anything in the article, but as it’s a general news roundup this seems as fitting a place as anywhere else for some questions I have about the remastered ST:TNG blu-rays.

    First, according to this (link), “many” of the episodes are “with originally edited out footage reinserted, resulting in extended episodes”. I know “Measure of a Man” from Season 2 is one example; what are the others?

    Secondly, I know a few episodes have minor issues with the effects in the remasters that remain on all disc releases but were fixed for streaming, download, etc. What episodes are these?

    • There are no other extended episodes.

      Here’s our recap of the ‘fixed’ episodes: http://trekcore.com/blog/2015/08/netflix-brings-vfx-fixes-to-star-trek-tng-in-hd/

      • Impecunious Joe

        Thanks!

        It’s a bit disappointing everything can’t be fixed on disc, but I don’t intend to let it stop me from buying the discs. Unfortunately my limited means have prevented me from getting everything before now, but I’m trying to take care of it all as I can. I’ve gotten most of the “feature” 2-parter edits – all except “Redemption”, which I plan to get this week, and I plan to get the complete series set as soon as circumstances permit.

    • Tone

      Short sighted or “waiting to be discovered” for another “Roddenberry” vault release.

  • Fctiger

    Wow TNG turns 30 this year. Christ I feel old lol. And I remember that picture. IIRC it came from EW when they were on the cover of that magazine in the 90s. And I can’t wait for that DS9 documentary.

    Its crazy Star Trek is still kicking along. And while the 50th anniversary couldve been better, much better, it still made me appreciate Trek and that we are still getting new adventures. Which is why I’m holding out Discovery will be good especially if the KT films are done but holding out for one more at least. But its a nice addition to a pretty big family already!

  • DS9 is King

    I hope Star Trek Discovery will be action oriented because TNG for example was painful to watch because it was PC and All talk but this is the 21st Century I expect them to make this more like Enterprise, also I am glad Nicholas Myer is involved he made Wrath of Khan and that was an excellent movie. Nicholas Myer is a excellent Director he knows how to make a great movie or series, back in 1982 when Paramount Brought Nicholas Myer in to write and Direct the Wrath of Khan Gene Roddenberry did not approve of the Story he hatted the Various themes of aging and loss he hatted Spock dying and all the Death and Destruction in the Movie but most of all he hatted the Space Battles. Gene Roddenberry and Nicholas Myer did not get along they had radically different view points of what Star Trek should be Myer wanted it more Action Adventure good vs Evil and Roddenberry wanted it more Cerebral but in the end Nicholas Myer won and Paramount sided with him and they kicked Roddenberry off the Project.

    • Fctiger

      We have to remember though Meyer won’t be running the show. He’s a writer for hire. He will clearly have influence and they probably hired him on ways to improve it overall but he doesn’t call the shots here. My guess though it will have plenty of action. IMO all the shows had plenty including TNG although yes thats probably the one with the least. But all the others had plenty, including Enterprise. And many people consider Trek an action series, they only say its not a show that relies on action to tell a good story…most of the time. 😉

  • Michael

    Lots of talk regarding the Discovery CGI/VFX. I can assure they are top notch and world class. I would dare say even game changing. They are that good.

    Literally NO ONE is going to be disappointed by the shows space scenes.